[ RadSafe ] Faith-based health physics

Jerry Cohen jjc105 at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 3 15:59:16 CST 2011

I think you show a good understanding of the problem.  Some time ago, on 
radsafe, I suggested a new discipline to deal with such problems and called it 
"Health Metaphysics". The object of health metaphysics was to control radiation 
exposures to a point where everyone feels good about the situation. Somehow, the 
idea was never accepted. I can't figure out why ;-)      Jerry

From: "Stabin, Michael" <michael.g.stabin at Vanderbilt.Edu>
To: "radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu" <radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:31:49 PM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] As low as possible

> Why does the "priesthood" propose such policies?  

1) Kool-Aid
2) Lots of research dollars and employment dollars for chasing trivial 
exposures. OK, a take-off on Field of Dreams...If you scare em, they will pay.

The original philosophy was As Low as Possible, but of course this is always 
eventually zero. 'Reasonably Achievable' is open to discussion, the point of 
this article was to suggest that the 'U' is being added to ALARA to make it 
ALAURA. There is no evidence to support the heroic attempts to lower dose 
limits, to shield radiologic facilities to 0.25 mSv, etc. this is just 
'faith-based radiation protection', a la Bob Dixon. Then there is the 'every CT 
is going to kill you' group, 'there is no safe radon level' crowd, etc. The 
argument made in the article is that in the long term this does not create jobs, 
it will kill them, and the main point is of course not about jobs, it's about a 
reasoned approach to public safety. See my recent post about toxic chemical 
shipment accidents and real harm vs. theoretical harm. Where should the money be 
spent? I rant, you decide.


Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP
Associate Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
Vanderbilt University
1161 21st Avenue South
Nashville, TN 37232-2675
Phone (615) 343-4628
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Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:15:07 -0700
From: Steven Dapra <sjd at swcp.com>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] [ As low as possible
To: Jerry Cohen <jjcohen at prodigy.net>,    "The International Radiation
    Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing    List"
    <radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu>
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March 2

         Why does the "priesthood" propose such policies?  My guess 
is that many of them have bought into the philosophy of statism.

Steven Dapra

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