[ RadSafe ] request for the information log (or whatever) for the releases from Japan power plant

John G. Hunt john at ird.gov.br
Sat Mar 12 16:56:18 CST 2011


Dear Radsafers

The WIKI site on the Fukushima NPP and accident is being up-dated on an hourly
basis and seems to be a resonable source of information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_Nuclear_Power_Plant

The date of first criticality of Fukushima 1-1 is given as october 1970.

John Hunt 

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Instituto de Radioproteção e Dosimetria (http://ird.gov.br)


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From: Jaro Franta <jaro-10kbq at sympatico.ca>
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] request for the information log (or whatever) for	the
releases from Japan power plant

> Fukushima is roughly similar, just an older design -- see NEI illustration
> here:
> 
> http://www.nei.org/filefolder/BoilingWaterReactorDesign_3.jpg
> 
> Some interesting comments here (remembering that several injuries 
> and one death occurred at TEPCO's plants as a direct result of the 
> earthquake....)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG_zrOW6JJ0
> 
> I'm a bit puzzled why the shelter (building) over the containment didn't
> have blow-out panels, like modern turbine buildings (which also can have
> dangerous amounts of hydrogen), to avoid the sort of destruction 
> seen on the Japanese video... 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KzABEkkc10
> 
>  Jaro
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart Farber
> Sent: March-12-11 4:40 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] request for the information log (or 
> whatever) for the releases from Japan power plant
> 
> An interesting link is shown below which shows an analysis by 
> Bechtel of the
> 
> Japanese reactor containment at their Advanced Boiling Water Reactors
> [ABWR]. It 
> does not show a date so I am not clear if it specifically shows the
> Fukushima 
> containment.  At this point it seems most likely from the confusing info
> getting 
> out that the structure which exploded due to vented hydrogen was the 
> reactor
> 
> building, not the reactor containment. The integral reactor 
> containment is a
> 
> very rugged structure with walls about 6 feet thick, and a reactor 
> mat that is even thicker.  See:
> 
> <http://www.iasmirt.org/iasmirt-3/SMiRT10/DC_250322>
> 
> Does anyone know if the report above, and diagram of a Japanese ABWR 
> applies to a plant like Fukushima?
> 
> As was seen at TMI, after the partial core melt, almost all the core 
> melt radioactivity was retained in containment, bound  up by passive 
> physical/chemical reactions  with concrete --not retained as a 
> result of engineered, active safety systems.
> 
> Some general news reports today have told people near Fukushima to "cover
> their 
> mouths".  Perhaps some of the media should do the same until they 
> get actual
> 
> facts. I've heard or read many news reports saying Fukushima power 
> plant was 40 years old.  The oldest plant in the complex was started 
> up in 1982  -28 years ago. Not a big point, but the media should at 
> least be able to get the plant age right.  If they can't do that,
>  what should be trusted from their reports?
> 
> To get an extreme anti-nuclear activist European take on the 
> accident [from someone who is billed by some of his supporter sites 
> as "the greatest nuclear expert in the world"] see the statement 
> issued earlier today by :Prof. Bruce
> 
> Busby. It is an "interesting" read as to the tactics being used to exploit
> the 
> accident. You might enjoy reading the GreenAudit group statement below.
> Busby 
> writes:
> 
> "This is a potenbtial [sic] Chernobyl level event and must be seen as
> extremely 
> serious."
> 
> Busby, a well-established Cassandra, is advising people [even on the 
> West Coast of the  US]  to rush out and get geiger counters and take 
> shelter if radiation levels with their geiger  counters increase to  
> 300  nSv/hr  [30 micro-R/hr] or about 2 -3 times normal background 
> at sea level from terrestrial gamma and cosmic radiation.
> 
> For point of reference to the insignificance of the minor radiation levels
> at 
> which Busby is recommending protective actions, I've done radiation surveys
> all 
> over Boston, MA many years ago which show ambient background levels 
> at many locations of about 250 nSv/hr due to the use of granite in construction
> there. 
> Levels like those Busby is recommending protective actions [in nanoSv/hr]
> were 
> measured in my survey at:
> 
> --South Station central train station: 270 nanoSv/hr
> --Christian Science Church: 250
> --Bunker Hill Monument: 240
> --State House Steps: 160
> --Park Street Church: 180
> 
> The above exposure rates will not have changed much [ :-) ] in the 
> 34 years since I did the Boston survey, since the dose rates are due 
> to the U-238 decay series [ 4.5 billion year half-life] and Th-232 
> decay series [ 14 billion year  half life].
> 
> I wrote an op-ed column in the Boston Globe about the above Boston radiation
> 
> survey in Dec. 1976 which I can supply to interested parties as a 
> pdf if they are interested.
> 
> I wrote this op-ed as a followup to the MA State Police foolishly running
> around 
> South Boston with Civil Defense Geiger counters looking for a 1  
> micro-Curie [ 37,000 Bq] Co-57 check source which had been in a tool 
> box stolen from a medical service tech's truck which had 
> disappeared. The local Health Department had put out reports that 
> anyone handling this "COBALT" radioactive [exempt Co-57 check source 
> mind you ] source would get " radiation sickness and radiation 
> burns".  Sounds like something we could read from some of today's 
> anti-nuclear activisits or today's press reports. The State Police 
> in 1976 sealed off a square mile of 
> S. Boston while they ran around with geiger counters and routine gm 
> probes looking for a 1 micro-Ci button source. I'll leave it to you 
> to calculate the trivial rad exposure from a 1 micro-Curie [37,000 
> Bq]  Co-57 check source at 2 or 3 feet, and to see how useless it 
> would be to quickly sweep by it at waist height looking for it.  I 
> called the Boston Globe reporter involved after this foolish column 
> ran and he scoffed at running any correction. I then spoke to the 
> Globe ombudsman who gave me an op-ed  column to state my position 
> about the event.
> 
> I've also done similar sensitive High Pressure Ionization Chamber 
> radiation surveys for an insurance company in 1981 around Harrisburg,
>  PA and the nuclear station after the accident at TMI. By far, the 
> highest radiation levels of about 300 nSv/hr [ 30 uR/hr] were, 
> similar to Boston, seen on the  steps of  the Harrisburg State 
> Capitol steps due to granite use in their construction, and in the 
> court room where various trials about the TMI accident were to be 
> held due to natural radioactivity in granite.
> 
> When  Busby, the Scientific Secretary of GreenAudit.com warns people 
> to take
> 
> shelter at only 300 nanoSv/hr it would seem that he has never heard 
> of radon
> 
> daughter washout during rainfall when the background rad gamma 
> levels can easily increase by factors of 2 or more.  Oh well, the 
> more things change, the more
> 
> they stay the same.
> 
> ===================================
> CHRIS BUSBY ISSUED STATEMENT ON JAPANESE ACCIDENT - AM EST March 12, 
> 2011 Urgent : 12th March 2011; London Alert: the potential health 
> consequences of the explosion at the Fukushima reactor in Japan 
> Joint Press Statement from the Low Level Radiation Campaign and the 
> European Committee on Radiation Risk
> 
> The evidence is now overwhelming that there has been a significant explosion
> accident at the Japanese Fukushima nuclear plant following the loss 
> of coolant to the reactor. The reactor is of the Boiling Water type, 
> which is the same type as the Chernobyl reactor. The detection of 
> high levels of radioactivity and of Caesium-137 near the plant makes 
> it clear that fission radionuclides are being released to the atmosphere.
> The quantity of radioactivity, which has been or will be released is 
> not yet known. However it should be appreciated as a matter of 
> extreme urgency that the health consequences of exposure to this 
> type of radiation is extremely serious and that the level of 
> exposure cannot be accurately assessed by making radiation 
> measurements based on absorbed dose. The authorities are already,
>  and will continue to, downplay the potential risks on the basis of 
> a false radiation risk model, that of the International Commission 
> on Radiological Protection. This is an exact replication of the 
> responses to the similar Chernobyl explosion and is driven by the 
> bias in these agencies and authorities towards nuclear energy. The 
> radionuclides released in the Chernobyl accident are the same 
> radionuclides being released from the Fukushima plant. The effects 
> of the Chernobyl accident radioactivity releases have been seen to 
> be devastating and continue to affect the health of the exposed populations
> as 
> far
> away from Chernobyl as Europe and the USA. The reason that Geiger absorbed
> dose
> type of readings (milliSieverts) cannot be employed as measures of 
> risk is that these kinds of radioactive substances act from within 
> the body or by binding to DNA, thus the dose to the local tissue or 
> DNA can be enormous whilst the average dose recorded by the Geiger 
> counter may be quite low or even barely detectable. If significant 
> amounts of radioactivity from the Fukushima plume approach populated 
> centres in any country (e.g. the western USA) the advice from the 
> European Committee on Radiation Risk Action Team [NOTE: THIS IS THE 
> ANTI-NUCLEAR ACTIVIST GROUP ISSUING THIS STATEMENT] is as follows:
> 
> 1. Do not believe the assurances of the radiation protection advisors
> working 
> for the
> government. They are false, biased and based on an obsolete model. 
> This is a potenbtial Chernobyl level event and must be seen as 
> extremely serious.
> 2. Try to obtain if possible a Geiger Counter or similar radiation detector
> or 
> readings
> from someone who owns one. If the readings increase to more that 
> twice the normal background in your area or to a level of more than 
> 300nSv/h (300nGy/h) then:
> 3. Get away as soon as possible to a clean area or if not possible stay
> indoors 
> and keep
> all the doors and windows closed for at as long as the radiation 
> levels are higher than normal. Try to keep the house sealed as far 
> as possible.
> 4. Drink bottled water, use only tinned milk. Await further 
> bulletins from www.llrc.org and www.euradcom.org Contact: Prof Chris 
> Busby, Scientific Secretary ECRR +44 7989 428833; +44 1970 630215; 
> Email: Mireille de Messieres: admin at greenaudit.org Richard Bramhall, 
> LLRC +44 1597 824771; bramhall at llrc.org
> =============================================
> 
>  Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
> Bridgeport, CT 06604
> 
> [203] 441-8433
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Hardeman <Jim.Hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us>
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing 
> List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 12:51:20 PM Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] 
> request for the information log (or whatever) forthe releases from 
> Japan power plant
> 
> Folks --
> 
> Some of the best factual info at the moment is from NEI ...
> 
> See 
> http://www.nei.org/newsandevents/information-on-the-japanese-
> earthquake-and- reactors-in-that-region
> 
> Max radiation reading reported is 11 mR/hr.
> 
> Jim Hardeman, Manager
> Environmental Radiation Program
> Environmental Protection Division
> Georgia Department of Natural Resources
> 4220 International Parkway, Suite 100
> Atlanta, GA 30354
> (404) 362-2675
> Fax: (404) 362-2653
> Personal fax: (404) 521-4485
> E-mail: Jim.Hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us
> 
> >>> "Roger Helbig" <rhelbig at sfo.com> 3/12/2011 03:59 >>>
> More searching - here is link to the Tokyo Electric Power Co 
> statement about the six reactors at this site  -
> 
> http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031203-e.html
> 
> All 6 units of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been 
> shut down.
> 
> Unit 1 (shut down due to earthquake)
> - Reactor was shut down and nuclear steam is cooled by the isolation
> condenser.
> - Currently, there is a possibility of a release of radioactive materials
>   due to decrease in reactor water level.  Therefore, the national
> government
>   has instructed evacuation for those local residents within 3km 
> radius of  the periphery and indoor standby for those local 
> residents between 3km and
> 
>   10km radius of the periphery.
> 
> Unit 2 (shut down due to earthquake)
> - Reactor was shut down and although nuclear steam had been cooled 
> by the  Reactor Core Isolation Cooling system, the current operating 
> status is  unclear.  However, reactor coolant level can be monitored 
> by a  temporary  power supply and the level is stable. - Currently,
>  there is a possibility of a release of radioactive materials  due 
> to decrease in reactor water level.  Therefore, the national government
>   has instructed evacuation for those local residents within 3km 
> radius of  the periphery and indoor standby for those local 
> residents between 3km and
> 
>   10km radius of the periphery.
> 
> Here is what NHK is reporting on their website and this ominous information
> is rocketing around the world in anti-nuke circles as being 
> "confirmation of a meltdown" - The Nuclear & Industrial Safety 
> Agency press release is at 
> http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110312-4.pdf - the translation
> appears a bit off and any RADSAFE members who can read Japanese characters
> should probably refer to the Japanese release and perhaps improve the
> translation.
> 
> Agency: Uranium fuel may be  melting at reactor
> 
> The government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says 2 radioactive
> substances, cesium and radioactive iodine, have been detected near 
> the Number One reactor at the Fukushima Number One nuclear power station.
> 
> The agency says this indicates that some of the metal containers of uranium
> fuel may have started melting.
> The substances are produced by fuel fission.
> 
> University of Tokyo Professor Naoto Sekimura says only a small part 
> of the fuel may have melted and leaked outside.
> 
> He called on residents near the power station to stay calm, saying 
> that most of the fuel remains inside the reactor, which has stopped 
> operation and is being cooled.
> 
> Saturday, March 12, 2011 15:26 +0900 (JST)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Nick Tsurikov
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:11 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] request for the information log (or whatever) 
> for the releases from Japan power plants
> 
> Dear Radsafers,
> 
> It will be very much appreciated if I could be pointed in the 
> direction of more or less accurate estimate of the releases from the 
> power plants in Japan.  Naturally, not right now - when it all calms 
> down a bit... I already see a public hysteria stirred more and more 
> by the mass media in Australia - which may (and likely will) have a 
> serious impact on the uranium mining projects  planned in my home 
> state of Western Australia and it will be great to have actual real data.
> 
> On a personal note, my heart goes out to the people of Japan now...  
> I was in Sendai late last year and actually was both on the train 
> and the cruise boat that are missing now around Matsushima... God 
> help you. Kind regards Nick Tsurikov Western Australia
> 
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