[ RadSafe ] Radiation Protection and Academic Pursuits

Howard howard.long at comcast.net
Mon Mar 21 19:23:21 CDT 2011


Larry and Ed,
Centrifugal vs centripetal government, big biz demon vs big gov demon, physicist vs engineer -
Like Tevya, I must say, "You are both right".

Currently, central planning centrifigal force seems excessive to me, judging by the borrowing from our grandchildren. We won't have credit capacity to back new reactor financing.

Elitists ("ignorant"?) don't trust the market to best set standards and prices,
 so excessive regulation impedes nuclear energy
(see Rockwell, Creating the New world).

Why not discuss on Radsafe how much regulation is good (or bad) 
just like how much radiation itself is good (or bad)?

Howard Long

On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:22 PM, "Larry Addis" <ajess at clemson.edu> wrote:

> I have a few friends that I see every day, PhDs. Economist, Engineers -
> (Mechanical, Chemical, Civil), at least three Health physicist, Political
> Scientist, History Professors, Chemist, Entomologist, all are published and
> successful - some retired.  Believe me they will take exception with your
> opinion there. 
> 
> Ignorant? Ouch that left a mark. I'll let em what you said tomorrow.
> 
> Lenin's prescription?? .......Really?  
> 
> Not sure this is the venue to vent that type political rhetoric/ideology. 
> 
> But, feel free to send me a personal email any time, Ed.
> 
> Hope you are well otherwise,
> Larry Addis  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Hiserodt
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:39 PM
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Radiation Protection and Academic Pursuits
> 
> If one is so ignorant of basic economics NOT to see that the Obama
> administration is indeed destroying the county per Lenin's prescription
> (debauching the currency), then one is living in a dream world.  With the
> country goes all those research projects, not to mention our children's and
> grandchildren's futures.  Prevention of that disaster is the reason Robinson
> ran for Congress.  Only fitting that he is honest about it.
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Hiserodt
> 
> Maumelle AR
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Addis
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:42 PM
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Radiation Protection and Academic Pursuits
> 
> 
> 
> No Howard, your point is well taken - I am with you there. I think you and I
> 
> and all on the list would agree that neither political nor theological
> 
> ideology or money should come into play.  Academic freedom and ethics should
> 
> trump when it comes to this serious question/conflict.  
> 
> 
> 
> Like I said, hopefully before it's all over the students will get an open,
> 
> fair and unobstructed opportunity to finish their academic pursuits. I'd
> 
> like to think this wouldn't happen at my University, but from this distance
> 
> I can't be a fair judge either way.
> 
> 
> 
> Having said that ..... I would give my and your eye teeth for a $10,000,000
> 
> earmark for my university night now. Times are TOUGH. Eye teeth yes,
> 
> personal integrity and people's careers and professional futures - NO WAY. 
> 
> 
> 
> Having said all that, I was a little disappointed to read something WHOLLY
> 
> political in the FIRST line of Art Robinson's article:
> 
> 
> 
> "In an effort to do my part in rescuing our country from the out-of-control
> 
> Obama administration, last year I ran for Congress in Oregon's 4th District"
> 
> 
> 
> Just sets too much of an ideological tone or flavor rather than serious
> 
> academic/ethical.  "Rescue our country"? or Rescue these kids? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> LA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> 
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Howard
> 
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:35 PM
> 
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> 
> Cc: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> 
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Radiation Protection and Academic Pursuits
> 
> 
> 
> Larry,
> 
> I must have omitted the motivation: $10,000,000 earmark for political
> 
> supporters.
> 
> 
> 
> At Clemson, would you deny access (to a PhD student with highest grades) to
> 
> reactor equipment the student himself had constructed, in order to give that
> 
> equipment to students more politically favored and in order for faculty to
> 
> sell?
> 
> 
> 
> I would not trust any health physics graduate from such a program.
> 
> Participants in Doctors for Disaster programs hosted by Dr Robinson (Linus
> 
> Pauling's partner) and readers of his Access to Energy, please comment.
> 
> 
> 
> Distrust of current info from Japan foretells decline of the whole health
> 
> physics profession if it cannot stop this corruption at OSU. Do try to get
> 
> the OSU view
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 1:33 PM, "Larry Addis" <ajess at clemson.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Howard,
> 
>> 
> 
>> You need not help me understand the situation you referred to.  The first
> 
>> thing I read by Art Robinson was that he was:
> 
>> 
> 
>> "rescuing our country from the out-of-control Obama administration".
> 
> Sounds
> 
>> like political ideology to me.
> 
>> 
> 
>> I read all the materials presented on the "Outrage" by Art Robinson and
> 
> saw
> 
>> nothing relating to radiation protection and little to academic pursuits.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> I did see terms like:
> 
>> 
> 
>> home schooling, and Christian, drunken parties of OSU nuclear engineering
> 
>> students during taxpayer-financed trips to scientific meetings. 
> 
>> 
> 
>> Politics should have NO place on either side of an academic issue. Nor
> 
>> should the other things mentioned.
> 
>> 
> 
>> I feel sorry for the students.  I hope this all gets resolved and
> 
> otherwise
> 
>> deserving students get an open, fair and unobstructed opportunity to
> 
> finish
> 
>> their academic pursuits.
> 
>> 
> 
>> LA   
> 
>> 
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