[ RadSafe ] Nuclear Physics Political Demise at Oregon StateUniversity

edmond0033 at comcast.net edmond0033 at comcast.net
Fri Mar 25 16:09:39 CDT 2011


It probably did.  I know when I had Chemistry, we had to learn some German, 
because many of the papers were in German.  This is no longer true.

Ed Baratta

-----Original Message----- 
From: bobcherry at satx.rr.com
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nuclear Physics Political Demise at Oregon 
StateUniversity

"Germany also had political command of science in the past, with great harm 
to
science."

This is true to some extent for science in general. However, the greatest 
harm, ironically and appropriately IMO, was to German science specifically. 
Many, if not most, of the best German physicists, including Einstein, left 
Germany for better (i.e., safer) conditions. This was of great benefit to 
American science in particular. This "lost" generation of German physicists 
made great lasting contributions in their new countries, both in their own 
right and in their education and mentorship of subsequent generations of 
physicists. German physics, once the greatest in the world, has not 
recovered from this exodus.

I don't know about other basic sciences. Did something similar occur in 
chemistry and biology?

Bob C


---- garyi at trinityphysics.com wrote:
> Howard,
>
> Thanks very much for sharing this.  Because it is a nuclear physics 
> program, the relevance is
> obvious.  If it was a medical school, I would still be interested but I 
> would expect the medical
> professionals to take the lead in any intervention or investigation.
>
> -Gary Isenhower
>
> On 24 Mar 2011 at 19:09, Howard wrote:
>
> Franz,
> Germany also had political command of science in the past, with great harm 
> to science.
> I do not agree that policial bribery to determine scientific degree (or 
> obstruction thereof) is
> "geographically very confined" and should be ignored if not in one's own 
> institution.
> Howard Long
>
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Franz Schönhofer 
> <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
>
> > Howard et al.,
> >
> > Do you really think that this geographically very confined political 
> > story
> > is appropriate for a so called "International Radiation Protection 
> > (Health
> > Physics) Mailing List"? I do not think so.
> >
> > Franz
> >
> > Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> > MinRat i.R.
> > Habicherg. 31/7
> > A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> > AUSTRIA
> >
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