[ RadSafe ] Support Radon Mine but mention "kill" scientist make nosense, ...

Andycgeo at aol.com Andycgeo at aol.com
Wed May 4 12:55:57 CDT 2011


Back in the 1960's I did some research of the literature to find if  
breathing radon was good for humans. Also, in the late 1960's as an employee of  
the US Atomic Energy Commission I studied the conditions in  several working 
uranium mines in Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and in Canada.  If any radon 
health effects showed up later among the miners were the result  of 5-10 year 
exposures at radon concentrations from 30 500 pCi/L. In  the case of radon 
spas or so-called radon mines people spent perhaps a few hours  per year so 
one  should not expect any detrimental health effects. The  probable reason 
given by a European  scientist in a two volume book is that  the visitors to 
those spas feel better after a few therapy treatments is  the inhalation of 
negative ions produced by radon and radon decay alpha  radiation. I do not 
recall the name of the book's author but it was  available in the 1960's. I 
recall that the author speculated that the  visitors to the spas experienced 
the same feeling after a thunder storm passes  by and leaves the air 
invigorating as a result of the abundance of negative air  ions created by 
lightning.  
 
I just wanted to remind people this subject came up more than 48 years ago  
when I started my career as a Radon Ranger.
 
Andy George  
 
 
In a message dated 5/4/2011 12:34:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV writes:

I don't  recall any general "support" of radon mines; I think the attitude 
is more one  of dismissal as quackery.  Nor do I recall anyone advocating 
that Helen  Caldicott (who is not, by the way, in any way a scientist) be 
"killed".   Indeed, I believe the overwhelming consensus is that she is a quack, 
though  likely more harmful to mankind's overall health than radon mines.   

Mr. Sato, you are obviously not a native English speaker, so I will  accept 
that you are not familiar with our culture.  If you take the time  to learn 
about our culture, it might save you embarrassment in front of the  people 
you wish to converse with.  The subject line and first paragraph  of your 
post are an attempt to place words in the mouths of others; to make it  appear 
that they are taking an unreasonable position.  It is not even a  very good 
attempt.  That you would try something this intellectually  dishonest, and 
be so poor at it, causes you to lose a great deal of face in  front of the 
people you are taking too.  Indeed, you have already lost so  much face that 
most people on radsafe are embarrassed to be seen conversing  with you, as 
they are concerned that your incorrect behavior will reflect  badly on them.  
They are mindful of the saying, "don't wrestle with a  pig; you will get 
dirty, and the pig will enjoy it more than you will".   

If you are interested in knowing more about radiation, radsafe is a  fairly 
good place to learn, but you first must learn to be  polite.



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Subject: [ RadSafe  ] Support Radon Mine but mention "kill" scientist make 
nosense,  help!

Support radon mine but "kill" scientist Helen Caldicott make for  no sense!
Please help to understand. Make no sense of what so ever. Explain  please!
What to is this "Radsafe"? Seem no concern for "safe" ! At all. WHY  named 
then "safe"?
Radon science say dangerous and Caldicott try to  help safety.

Please see comments these made  here;
_http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032089.html_  
(http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032089.html)  
_http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032106.html_  
(http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032106.html)   


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