[ RadSafe ] Busby and calculations

franz.schoenhofer at chello.at franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Wed May 4 14:45:28 CDT 2011


Sorry, Doug,

Being somebody who has been since I was young (long, long time ago) was interested in the history of nuclear energy and therefore also on nuclear weapons, which became even deeper with my work on global contamination by nuclear weapons tests, my engagement on surveillance of radioactivity in the environment and especially during my participation in the IAEA project on the French Nuclear Tests in the South Pacific and the comparison to nuclear accidents like Chernobyl. Moreover I have some interest in more recent history.

I think that you are completely wrong.  Germany never had any real chance to build "the bomb", there was no chance to enrich uranium-235, not to talk about producing plutonium, whatever calculations they did. Furthermore the strategists of the Third Reich relied mostly on conventional warfare and were pushing new technical developments only to a small extent. The experiments conducted by the Heisenberg group were directed towards neutron multiplication by using natural uranium cubes and heavy water as a moderator. This was very well measured and not calculated. 

There is enough literature on this history available and it is not necessary to rely on "urban legends". 

Beside that comment on Heisenberg I think that the issue of development of science in the medieval ages is a very fascinating topic, especially the problems inflicted by the inquisition. Should you be more interested in it, I recommend to read the extremely interesing book "The Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco, I know it is available in English, because I read it in English. There is also a film on it which is excellent, but of course cannot address the "scientific" and philosophical parts in detail.


Best regards,

Franz

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---- Douglas Minnema <douglasm at DNFSB.GOV> schrieb:
> Steve, good observation.   It reminds me that this same tendency (calculate but not measure) was noted as part of the reason Heisenberg failed in his efforts to build a bomb for Germany.  Among other things, this led him to fail to measure the effect of impurities in graphite and lead on neutron transport, which resulted in the failure of his early criticality experiments.
> 
> Doug Minnema 
> 
> >>> Steven Dapra <sjd at swcp.com> 05/03/11 9:53 PM >>>
> May 3
> 
> 	I am currently reading a book about early modern Europe (Rice, 1970).
> 
> 	In his chapter on science and technology, the author discusses the 
> physics of the medieval scholastics, and how they went nowhere 
> because of the scholastics' limited knowledge of mathematics.  The 
> author also says, "They were disputatious, and too often preferred 
> the sophistical victory of the debate to the empirical search for 
> truth.  They calculated, but saw little need to measure."
> 
> 	"Dr. Chris Busby, another physicist . . . predicts based on his 
> calculations. . . ."
> 
> 	I don't make the news, I merely report it.
> 
> Steven Dapra
> 
> 
> REFERENCE
> 
> Rice, Eugene, F. Jr.  The Foundations of Early Modern Europe, 1460 - 
> 1559.  W.W. Norton and Co., 1970  (page 20).
> 
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