[ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Jerry Cohen
jjc105 at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 29 17:16:01 CST 2011
Considering previous recipients of the Nobel prize (Jimmy Carter, Yasir Arafat,
Barack Obama), I think that Busby might fit in nicely.
Jerry
Bob,
Do you really think that this has killed "cold fusion"? At least our expert for
everything, especially on everything nuclear, the eminent and omnipotent
advocate of everything antinuclear Chris Busby (sorry, (visiting) Professor) has
given his opinion. How can you dare to contradict his expertise, which is close
to be nominated for next years Nobel Prize - being in line with one of the most
recent Nobel prizes for ""Peace", the recipient just to send more troops into a
foreign country.
Sorry Bob, this is not "tongue in cheek", it is much further down.....
Best regards, you might know that I enjoy your RADSAFE messages!
Franz
---- bobcherry at satx.rr.com schrieb:
> I thought that the activists had killed cold fusion because it affected the
>habitat of the endangered northwest tree octopus.
Bob C
---- Doug Aitken <jdaitken at sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com> wrote:
> Guys:
The "Red Mercury" project is well documented in the Internet!
So it must be true!
;~)
I guess this is another depiction of the "Scientific Approach" of Busby.
Sure does impress me.......
Here is a "short" scientific explanation:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2004/sep/30/thisweekssciencequestions1
Enjoy!
Regards
Doug
Doug Aitken
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(alternate e-mail: doug.aitken at slb.com )
Mail: c/o Therese Wigzell,
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Cowie, Michael I
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Chris, seriously "if you do not know", why provide that "detail??!!!
Mike
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
The neutron bomb is not a conventional one. It uses cold fusion through
deuterium dissolved in uranium which when supersaturated by compression causes
fusion. The method was developed following the Fleischmann discovery using
Palladium electrodes, but uranium is better. It is a small device, as small as a
baseball. The Russians called it Red Mercury and described its characteristics.
But this was only a suggestion. I do not know. All I know is that there is
slightly enriched uranium in Fallujah and also in the Lebanon bomb crater from
Khiam.
Thank you
Chris
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Sent: Mon 28/11/2011 22:19
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Thank you for your kind words.
Another argument against the claim that a neutron weapon was used in Fallujah is
that I suspect all versions of enhanced radiation weapons (neutron bombs) use
plutonium, rather than highly enriched uranium. At very least the one
description that I found in a quick look mentioned using plutonium, and it fits
with other things I know about such weapons. If that is the case, a neutron
bomb as the source of U235 is even more difficult to accept.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Mike
Thanks for your usual calm, well informed, and carefully considered discussion
of the matter. I might only add that the article is really baffling in that it
refers to the U in question as being simultaneously "weapons-grade" and
"slightly enriched". These are mutually exclusive characterizations.
Cheers
cja
> It is sad that people who promote this kind of thing don't bother to> google
>what they are talking about. A "neutron bomb" isn't some magic>
>people-killing-building-leaving device; it is a low yield nuclear> weapon,
>optimized for neutron production. If one had been set off in> Fallujah,
>everyone who was interested would have known about it, and
the> evidence would be incontrovertible.>> The first clues would have
been pretty distinctive: the mushroom cloud,> really, REALLY loud explosion and
flash (even compared to the other> explosions and flashes) and an
electro-magnetic pulse that would have> fried most electronics for miles
around. Given that almost every> American in the area was carrying some
personal electronics such as cell> phones, computers, GPS units, etc., if there
had been an EMP, it would> have been noticed.
Someone would have talked. In addition to the US, I> would guess there are at
least four countries with satellites that could> detect and identify t he EMP
from a nuke, and probably as many> corporations (and it may be as high as 10
countries). There would also> be a fairly distinctive blast damage pattern at
ground zero.>> Second, given the fairly short range of a neutron dose high
enough to be> fatal in the short term (and if you are in the middle of a battle
you> don't use thing with latency periods in years or decades, as you want to>
kill your targets now, to make them stop shooting at you), the weapon> would
have to be detonated fairly close to the ground. This means LOTS> of fallout.
Easily detectable levels of short lived isotopes would have> been seen probably
a couple thousand miles downwind. No matter which> way the wind was blowing,
there are countries that would be willing to> blow the whistle on the event.>>
Third, one of the things about neutron bombs is high neutron flux in the> target
area (that is the whole point, after all).
High neutron flux> means lots of activation of material in that area, wit h
characteristic> isotopes. A lot of them are short lived, but there would be
enough to> increase the gamma background, and detectable with a hand held gamma>
spec device for quite some time after.>> No, the best explanation for finding
U235 in samples is that it is> naturally occurring.>
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Cowie, Michael I
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Chris, seriously "if you do not know", why provide that "detail??!!!
Mike
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
The neutron bomb is not a conventional one. It uses cold fusion through
deuterium dissolved in uranium which when supersaturated by compression causes
fusion. The method was developed following the Fleischmann discovery using
Palladium electrodes, but uranium is better. It is a small device, as small as a
baseball. The Russians called it Red Mercury and described its characteristics.
But this was only a suggestion. I do not know. All I know is that there is
slightly enriched uranium in Fallujah and also in the Lebanon bomb crater from
Khiam.
Thank you
Chris
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Sent: Mon 28/11/2011 22:19
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Thank you for your kind words.
Another argument against the claim that a neutron weapon was used in Fallujah is
that I suspect all versions of enhanced radiation weapons (neutron bombs) use
plutonium, rather than highly enriched uranium. At very least the one
description that I found in a quick look mentioned using plutonium, and it fits
with other things I know about such weapons. If that is the case, a neutron
bomb as the source of U235 is even more difficult to accept.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Neutron Bomb used on Fallujah
Mike
Thanks for your usual calm, well informed, and carefully considered discussion
of the matter. I might only add that the article is really baffling in that it
refers to the U in question as being simultaneously "weapons-grade" and
"slightly enriched". These are mutually exclusive characterizations.
Cheers
cja
> It is sad that people who promote this kind of thing don't bother to> google
>what they are talking about. A "neutron bomb" isn't some magic>
>people-killing-building-leaving device; it is a low yield nuclear> weapon,
>optimized for neutron production. If one had been set off in> Fallujah,
>everyone who was interested would have known about it, and
the> evidence would be incontrovertible.>> The first clues would have
been pretty distinctive: the mushroom cloud,> really, REALLY loud explosion and
flash (even compared to the other> explosions and flashes) and an
electro-magnetic pulse that would have> fried most electronics for miles
around. Given that almost every> American in the area was carrying some
personal electronics such as cell> phones, computers, GPS units, etc., if there
had been an EMP, it would> have been noticed.
Someone would have talked. In addition to the US, I> would guess there are at
least four countries with satellites that could> detect and identify t he EMP
from a nuke, and probably as many> corporations (and it may be as high as 10
countries). There would also> be a fairly distinctive blast damage pattern at
ground zero.>> Second, given the fairly short range of a neutron dose high
enough to be> fatal in the short term (and if you are in the middle of a battle
you> don't use thing with latency periods in years or decades, as you want to>
kill your targets now, to make them stop shooting at you), the weapon> would
have to be detonated fairly close to the ground. This means LOTS> of fallout.
Easily detectable levels of short lived isotopes would have> been seen probably
a couple thousand miles downwind. No matter which> way the wind was blowing,
there are countries that would be willing to> blow the whistle on the event.>>
Third, one of the things about neutron bombs is high neutron flux in the> target
area (that is the whole point, after all).
High neutron flux> means lots of activation of material in that area, wit h
characteristic> isotopes. A lot of them are short lived, but there would be
enough to> increase the gamma background, and detectable with a hand held gamma>
spec device for quite some time after.>> No, the best explanation for finding
U235 in samples is that it is> naturally occurring.>
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