[ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between science andpseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)

[Roger Helbig]

Busby probably has an endless supply of blather allegedly supporting his
position - he does not provide URL links, nor does he supply quotes - just
remember that this is the same person who is selling unneeded testing and
pills to the people of Japan under the guise of being some sort of
"charitable" foundation with his PayPal begging bowl out.

 http://www.cbfcf.org

When you factor that in along with the other less than factual and
apparently self-serving postings that Busby has carpet bombed the net with
over the years, I would think that he has no real scientific credibility,
but he will continue to attempt to obfuscate any rational discussion of the
issues until he wears you down by shear volume of replies and alleged
references.

Roger Helbig

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Busby, Chris <C.Busby at ulster.ac.uk> wrote:

> Nevertheless, Sternglass work was followed up much later with more data by
> Whyte and published in the prestigious British Medical Journal a paper which
> vindicated his findings:
>
> Whyte R K, (1992) First Day Neonatal Mortality since 1935: A Re-examination
> of the Cross Hypothesis, British Medical Journal, 304: 343-6.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Chris Busby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Bob Cherry
> Sent: Thu 06/10/2011 04:40
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between science
> andpseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)
>
> The December 1996 issue of the HPS Newsletter refers to an even earlier
> issue:
>
> Every issue of the HPS Newsletter seems to have information
> important enough to reference. The August
> 1971 issue is no exception. An exceptional event was
> described in that issue. After Ernest Sternglass presented
> a paper on an epidemiological study describing health
> effects from nuclear facilities discharges, Dade Moeller,
> President-Elect, read a statement that had been signed by
> Claire Palmiter, President. and all 13 past presidents of
> the Society.
>
> In part. it stated that Sternglass had presented papers
> in which he associates an increase in infant mortality
> with low levels of radiation exposure ... His allegations
> made in several forms, have in each instance been ana.
> lyzed by scientists, physicians, and biostatisticians in the
> federal government, in individual states that have been
> involved in his reports. and by qualified scientists in other
> countries. . Without exception, these agencies and scientists
> have concluded that Dr. Sternglass' arguments are
> not substantiated by the data he presents. The United
> States Public Health Service, the Environmental Protection
> Agency, the States of New York, Pennsylvania,
> Michigan, and Illinois have issued formal reports in rebuttal
> of Dr. Sternglass' arguments.
>
> Again. in spite of the efforts by the most respected
> authorities to prevent the widespread broadcasting of
> Sternglass' flawed perceptions, Sternglass was sought for
> comments by the media and his story told countless times.
> The public was presented with fearful misinformation.
> Many members of the Society wanted stronger efforts to
> counter erroneous information, but our story was not
> considered newsworthy by the media.
>
> --from Bob C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Dapra
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:27 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between science and
> pseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)
>
> Oct. 5
>
>         Sternglass is a charlatan.  See Samuel McCracken's analysis of some
> of his claims in "The War Against the Atom," pp. 122-133.
>
> Steven Dapra
>
>
> At 09:40 AM 10/5/2011, you wrote:
>
> [edit]
>
> >And dont knock Sternglass. His work is broadly correct.
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Harrison, Tony
> >Sent: Wed 05/10/2011 15:02
> >To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> >Subject: [ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between science and
> >pseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)
>
> [edit]
>
> >Busby's citation of Sternglass et alia is laughable, but so are some of
> >the pro-hormesis papers cited here over the years.  Both just show that
> >the peer-review process is far from perfect.  Too many propagandists
> >out there, and not enough scientists.
>
>
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