[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3

[Steven Dapra]

Oct. 8

         There was no control group for exposure to DU or for 
exposure to anything else.

Steven Dapra


At 03:49 AM 10/8/2011, you wrote:
>Not DU
>
>Chris
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
>Sent: Sat 08/10/2011 04:47
>To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
>
>Oct. 7
>
>          This study was based on hair samples from 25 exposed parents
>and two of their children.  Note also that it is a self-selected
>(volunteer) study.
>
>          Quoting from the study:
>
>          "Parents of children born in 2009-2010 with major congenital
>anomalies in Fallujah General Hospital volunteered to take part in
>the study. Mothers and fathers separately gave hair samples in May
>2010 and also completed a questionnaire. Details from the
>questionnaire were filed with the clinical details of the child's
>congenital anomaly. In two cases, hair from the child was also
>obtained. We obtained the clinical details of the congenital anomaly,
>the age of the parents, their smoking history and alcohol drinking
>history and where they had lived. All of the parents were from
>Fallujah and had been present at the time of and after the attacks in 2004."
>
>          There was no control group of Iraqis who were not exposed to
>DU.  Some of the comparisons in the study are to residents of Sweden.
>
>          Busby said the study "took almost a year to get through peer
>review."  It was received on Feb. 5, 2011, and accepted on Sept. 2,
>2011.  This is seven months --- not what I would call "almost a year."
>
>Steven Dapra
>
>
>
>At 01:47 AM 10/7/2011, you wrote:
> >Yes
> >
> >The study is here:
> >
> >Research
> >Open Access Highly Accessed
> >
> >     Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of
> > children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq
> >
> >Samira Alaani, Muhammed Tafash, Christopher Busby, Malak Hamdan and
> >Eleonore Blaurock-Busch Conflict and Health 2011, 5:15 (2 September 2011)
> >
> >http://www.conflictandhealth.com/content/5/1/15
> >
> >Please apologize
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Dan W McCarn
> >Sent: Thu 06/10/2011 19:45
> >To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> >
> >Dear Chris Busby:
> >
> >You wrote, "I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive study of
> >uranium in Fallujah."
> >
> >Just a couple of questions... Did you ever have boots on the ground in
> >Fallujah?  Did you design and conduct the sampling program?  And where was
> >this "study" published?
> >
> >No, I really don't want to hear the answer to that because you have
> >impeached yourself too many times.  But I wish that you would not try to
> >dominate this list.
> >
> >Years ago, in preparation for expert testimony, I was advised to never
> >describe something as "complicated" or "complex" and to especially avoid the
> >word, "expensive" because those words fall on deaf ears in a courtroom.
> >
> >I have become deaf to your words.
> >
> >Dan ii
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> >[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Busby, Chris
> >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:40
> >To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> >
> >I agree about peer review and dont rely on it, nor do I say that my own peer
> >review articles are any more believable as a result of peer review. Its it
> >is just that others demand this as some kind of requirement before they even
> >read it. I have been contacted by many people in Japan giving symptoms that
> >suggest the same scenario as Bandashevsky found. I figured out that it was
> >mechanistically plausible, and this made me realise that i could save lives.
> >Hence Youtube. I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive study
> >of uranium in Fallujah. It took almost a year to get through peer review.
> >Its now published. In that time, a lot of children could have been saved.
> >Scientists like anyone have a duty to warn the public of what they have
> >found if that can possible save lives.It would, in my opinion and belief,
> >have been irresponsible NOT to say something to everyone.
> >Cheers
> >Chris
>
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