[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3; The End

Sun Oct 9 04:47:53 CDT 2011

Im, sorry, I dont want to respond to you any more, Steven, this is probably my last post directly on your questions and statements.  Following your remark about the resurrection of Jesus, and your belief in Creation, your credibility is bankrupt. You clearly either havent read the Fallujah uranium paper or else you are just picking away as usual and wasting my time. There is nothing I could write that would not just raise some other question and a lot of ignorant cheers from the sidelines. My assumption that this is a discussion group is mistaken when it comes to you, Helbig and Franz Schoenhofer. It is a bear baiting arena. I have wasted enough time on you all. At times it has been entertaining, but enough is enough. 
There are some good honest wrong and misguided people on this Radsafe, and some useful exchanges, but I have made most of the points I wanted to make. If anyone is interested in my ideas or work, I will still keep an eye on the posts, and can be contacted directly.

With my very best regards,

Chris   

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
Sent: Sun 09/10/2011 00:25
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3

Oct. 8

         There was no control group for exposure to DU or for 
exposure to anything else.

Steven Dapra

At 03:49 AM 10/8/2011, you wrote:
>Not DU
>
>Chris
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
>Sent: Sat 08/10/2011 04:47
>To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
>
>Oct. 7
>
>          This study was based on hair samples from 25 exposed parents
>and two of their children.  Note also that it is a self-selected
>(volunteer) study.
>
>          Quoting from the study:
>
>          "Parents of children born in 2009-2010 with major congenital
>anomalies in Fallujah General Hospital volunteered to take part in
>the study. Mothers and fathers separately gave hair samples in May
>2010 and also completed a questionnaire. Details from the
>questionnaire were filed with the clinical details of the child's
>congenital anomaly. In two cases, hair from the child was also
>obtained. We obtained the clinical details of the congenital anomaly,
>the age of the parents, their smoking history and alcohol drinking
>history and where they had lived. All of the parents were from
>Fallujah and had been present at the time of and after the attacks in 2004."
>
>          There was no control group of Iraqis who were not exposed to
>DU.  Some of the comparisons in the study are to residents of Sweden.
>
>          Busby said the study "took almost a year to get through peer
>review."  It was received on Feb. 5, 2011, and accepted on Sept. 2,
>2011.  This is seven months --- not what I would call "almost a year."
>
>Steven Dapra
>
>
>
>At 01:47 AM 10/7/2011, you wrote:
> >Yes
> >
> >The study is here:
> >
> >Research
> >Open Access Highly Accessed
> >
> >     Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of
> > children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq
> >
> >Samira Alaani, Muhammed Tafash, Christopher Busby, Malak Hamdan and
> >Eleonore Blaurock-Busch Conflict and Health 2011, 5:15 (2 September 2011)
> >
> >http://www.conflictandhealth.com/content/5/1/15
> >
> >Please apologize
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Dan W McCarn
> >Sent: Thu 06/10/2011 19:45
> >To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> >
> >Dear Chris Busby:
> >
> >You wrote, "I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive study of
> >uranium in Fallujah."
> >
> >Just a couple of questions... Did you ever have boots on the ground in
> >Fallujah?  Did you design and conduct the sampling program?  And where was
> >this "study" published?
> >
> >No, I really don't want to hear the answer to that because you have
> >impeached yourself too many times.  But I wish that you would not try to
> >dominate this list.
> >
> >Years ago, in preparation for expert testimony, I was advised to never
> >describe something as "complicated" or "complex" and to especially avoid the
> >word, "expensive" because those words fall on deaf ears in a courtroom.
> >
> >I have become deaf to your words.
> >
> >Dan ii
> >
> >--
> >Dan W McCarn, Geologist
> >108 Sherwood Blvd
> >Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
> >+1-505-672-2014 (Home - New Mexico)
> >+1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
> >HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> >[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Busby, Chris
> >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:40
> >To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> >
> >I agree about peer review and dont rely on it, nor do I say that my own peer
> >review articles are any more believable as a result of peer review. Its it
> >is just that others demand this as some kind of requirement before they even
> >read it. I have been contacted by many people in Japan giving symptoms that
> >suggest the same scenario as Bandashevsky found. I figured out that it was
> >mechanistically plausible, and this made me realise that i could save lives.
> >Hence Youtube. I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive study
> >of uranium in Fallujah. It took almost a year to get through peer review.
> >Its now published. In that time, a lot of children could have been saved.
> >Scientists like anyone have a duty to warn the public of what they have
> >found if that can possible save lives.It would, in my opinion and belief,
> >have been irresponsible NOT to say something to everyone.
> >Cheers
> >Chris
>
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