[ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in Maple Syrup, Ra-226 in mineral waters, Cs-137 in woodash, etc. was: Re: Re. Tritium found near VT Yankee (panic time!)
Simon, Craig (CI6)
Craig.Simon at ettp.doe.gov
Thu Sep 15 04:17:51 CDT 2011
Although I'm sure its loaded with fallout, along with dioxins, PCBs, etc.........
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in Maple Syrup, Ra-226 in mineral waters, Cs-137 in woodash, etc. was: Re: Re. Tritium found near VT Yankee (panic time!)
You might try Michigan Maple syrup as a suitable substitue if you run low on Vermont syrup. Tough to beat either.
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in Maple Syrup, Ra-226 in mineral waters, Cs-137 in woodash, etc. was: Re: Re. Tritium found near VT Yankee (panic time!)
Hello all,
I also can't stomach [with stomach serving as a verb] any pancakes or waffles without authentic [ hopefully 100% Vermont ] maple syrup. A few Bq of residual fallout Sr-90 should never interfere with enjoying the sweet sap of the maple tree concentrated 35:1 into real maple syrup.
The corporation executives which foist high fructose corn based "pancake syrup" with artificial maple flavoring on the public, or any person who would shun real maple syrup because of minute levels of Sr-90 should be sentenced to watching 24 hours straight of Busby nuclear nonsense videos on YouTube with their eyelids taped open.
As is found in a common valediction [antonym of salutation for those unfamiliar with the term] on radsafe, Cheers!
Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
SAFarber at optonline.net
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Michael LaFontaine, P. Phys.
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in Maple Syrup, Ra-226 in mineral waters,
Cs-137 in woodash, etc. was: Re: Re. Tritium found near VT Yankee (panic
time!)
Vermont maple syrup is still as welcome in my pantry as home-grown Ontario or Quebec. I think the whole "organic" food craze will turn out to be one of the biggest frauds of the 21st century.
Lots of maple syrup on tomorrow's pancakes!
Mike
ps - On a serious note, did any employees receive excessive doses as a result of the furnace explosion at the France nuclear-waste processing plant?
At 06:27 PM 14/09/2011, you wrote:
>Excellent, as usual.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Neill Stanford, CHP
>Stanford Dosimetry, LLC
>360 733 7367
>360 933 1794 (fax)
>www.stanforddosimetry.com
>stanford at stanforddosimetry.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stewart Farber [mailto:SAFarber at optonline.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:29 PM
>To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>List
>Subject: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in Maple Syrup, Ra-226 in mineral waters,
>Cs-137 in woodash, etc. was: Re: Re. Tritium found near VT Yankee
>(panic time!)
>
>Fun facts on environmental radioactivity:
>
>As far as any State Health Department or self-serving politicians in
>New England expressing concern about trivial levels of H-3 in river
>water, or Sr-90 in fish from any river -upstream or downstream of a
>nuclear power plant, perhaps they should realize how the presence of
>fallout radioactivity in maple syrup, or Ra-226 and Ra-228 in the
>mineral waters being marketed by private companies in their States
>could be highlighted, much to the detriment of commercial endeavors ---IF one were so inclined.
>
>Many years ago, I used to review radioactivity measured in every media
>routinely sampled [and in some media like wood-ash not sampled as part
>of REMP programs] around nuclear plants in New England including
>Vermont Yankee. There was, and still will be measurable low-levels of
>Sr-90 in maple syrup from fallout due to nuclear bomb testing prior to
>the Test Ban Treaty in 1963-- with dose implications dwarfing by many,
>many orders of magnitude the dose consequences from any trace levels of
>H-3 claimed to have been found in the Connecticut River for example.
>
>If trivial doses from things like H-3 in river water are an issue of
>concern to regulators or politicians given the minute doses possible,
>let's put the dose consequences of things like:
>
>-- Sr-90 in commercial VT maple syrup due to bomb testing,
>-- or Ra-226 in commercial VT bottled waters due to God & the Big Bang
>-- or Cs-137 due to bomb testing [ present in 10,000 or so cubic meters
>of ash from small VT wood burning power plants] at levels up to 9,000
>or so pCi/kg ash [300+ Bq/kg ash] being spread on home gardens and on
>large commercial organic farming co-op farms in Northeastern Vermont,
>on the table, as it were, for honest evaluation.
>
>It's totally amusing [on a certain level] that stores like Whole Foods
>or other Organic food product retailers are almost consistently
>strongly anti-nuclear power, and against food irradiation but are
>selling Organic produce being fertilized with wood ash with elevated
>levels of Cs-137 from nuclear test fallout. Organic food and organic
>product sales is now a $27 billion a year market in the US. How much
>radioactive wood ash is used as fertilizer in organic farming to
>replenish depleted potassium, and how would many consumers like to know
>woodash spread on the fields where their crops are grown contain
>elevated levels of Cs-137 [and Sr-90]? I doubt Organic food consumers would be terribly thrilled with knowing this fact.
>
>How fast would VT agencies or politicians be to criticize a trivial
>level of H-3 in river water with essentially zero dose implications, or
>in a trivial amount of groundwater flowing into the CT river, if
>applying the same standards to commercial products in their State were
>put under the same microscope? It would be fascinating to witness
>politicians and certain State agencies scramble to minimize the
>significance of the above sources of nuclear test and natural radiation
>exposure from their commercial products if the public knew what they were consuming.
>
>Stewart Farber, MS Public Health
>
>Farber Medical Solutions, LLC
>Bridgeport, CT 06604
>SAFarber at optonline.net
>203-441-8433
>=====================
>
>
>On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:17:42 -0400, Fredrick L. Miller
><millerfl at tricity.wsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > The Vermont Department of Health would be well advised to stay
> > upstream of any and all universities engaged in research within the
> > United States lest they send themselves into a blind panic over this
> > imminent public health menace. Best they stick to testing syrup and
> > making sure the quaint factor is turned up high enough for tourist season.
> >
> > Fred Miller
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Steven
> > Dapra
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:55 PM
> > To: radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu
> > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Tritium found near VT Yankee (panic time!).
> >
> > Aug. 18
> >
> > The article begins:
> >
> > "The Vermont Department of Health said it has found detectable
> > traces of radioactive tritium from the Vermont Yankee nuclear power
> > plant in the Connecticut River."
> >
> > Has anyone ever found non-detectable traces of anything,
> > radioactive or not?
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/radioactive-tritium-found-river-near-vermont-y
> > anke
> > e-plant-184050307.html
> >
> > Steven Dapra
> >
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