[ RadSafe ] LNT
Otto G. Raabe
ograabe at ucdavis.edu
Fri Sep 30 15:36:29 CDT 2011
At 01:19 AM 9/30/2011, Busby, Chris wrote:
>I know that all studies are based on this quantity. But this
>quantity is not the same as the ionisation density at the DNA. Any
>schoolkid could work that out with a pencil. Thats why you multiply
>by 20 for alphas. Why do you think you multiply by 20 for alphas. It
>used to be callesd relative biologcal effectiveness RBE. Are you
>saying that a decay in the cytoplasm has the same carcinogenic
>effect as a decay in the coiled DNA of an element chemically bound
>to it? It seems you are. Take tyritium. The beta range is so small
>that ALL the decays in the cytoplasm are lost energy. So the effects
>must be due to those few atoms that approach rthe DNA or some other
>key target. Yet Tritium has a RBE of 1.0. Therefore the few atoms
>that are near the DNA must have a RBE of several thousand to account
>for the lost energy ionsining the cytoplasm. ICRP originally
>decided as far back as 1972 to add a weighting factor N to internal e
> mitters that bound to DNA. I was told this by one of the ICRP
> people in Stockholm last year. They dropped the idea. But ECRR
> picked it up (independently, since we didnt know in 2003 that ICRP
> had done this
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MORE NONSENSE!
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