[ RadSafe ] Dosimetry Reports

Wed Apr 18 17:26:43 CDT 2012

Hans, and the fact that there was no noticeable medical consequences should have validated the non-personnel exposure! Individuals who try and cause another individual an issue with their Dosimetry, or a practical joke or more serious attempt to get an employer into trouble, generally don't know enough about the radiation environment or source that they try and use, and the science can determine whether the exposure is valid or questionable.

Best regards,

Sandy
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On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:25 PM, "Hans Wiegert" <hans.wiegert at sealedair.com> wrote:

> Sandy,
> 
> I agree with you 100%!  The only time I had any problems was when someone
> thought it would be "funny" to run another person's badge through a unit.
> NOT FUNNY! Took some work to convince SC DHEC that the 60 Rem were the
> results of a "joke".
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Hans
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Perle, Sandy <sperle at mirion.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hans and Chris,
>> 
>> I would think that an anomalous reading should receive whatever evaluation
>> that is required to correct with an appropriate estimated dose, with the
>> concurrence of the worker (very important). I find it hard to believe that
>> a worker would refuse to support the change in dose, and why would this
>> information not be a requirement of employment, in that the employer is
>> accountable for maintaining a safe work place and a worker's dose is always
>> a potential litigation possibility.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sandy Perle
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Hans Wiegert" <hans.wiegert at sealedair.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> you are correct to the extend that the RSO/ARSO have to get the employee
>> to
>>> "voluntarily" disclose this information. We try to do this by
>>> educating badgeholders  through our annual badgeholder training and
>> asking
>>> "general" questions about any abnormal reading. HR take the approach of
>> the
>>> three monkeys!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Chris Alston <achris1999 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hans
>>>> 
>>>> I see this scenario as a HIPPA problem only if your employee denies
>>>> you the right to inform the dosimetry-service vendor of the
>>>> circumstances of the exposure.  Then you would not be able to advise
>>>> the vendor to adjust his/her records appropriately.  You would have to
>>>> write a note to file, and maybe in your quarterly/annual reports,
>>>> saying something to the effect that, while you were morally certain
>>>> that the reported dose was spurious, you could not further document
>>>> your claim.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note, I don't see that one would have to go into great detail,
>>>> either in one's on-site records, or in the documentation one offered
>>>> the service vendor.  One could simply state that one had established,
>>>> after interviews with the employee, and appropriate reviews of their
>>>> work environment, that the recorded exposure, or some fraction of it,
>>>> was not occupational in origin.  Of course, one would always cc the
>>>> employee and his/her maanger.  But, again, these are questions on
>>>> which the Offices of Risk Management, or corporate counsels, may have
>>>> different takes, at different institutions.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> cja
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Hans Wiegert <hans.wiegert at sealedair.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Dosimetry Reports
>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The bi-monthly OSL dosimetry reports are reviewed by the plant RSO/ARSO
>> for
>>>> any irregularities and kept on file. Each badgeholder  is made aware
>> during
>>>> the *annual refresher training* that they have the right at any time to
>> see
>>>> *their *exposure records. A copy is made and all other personnel data on
>>>> the sheet is blanked out. Under NO circumstance would we post the
>> exposure
>>>> records of individuals for everyone to see!
>>>> 
>>>> The problem we have with HIPAA is the difficulty when investigating
>>>> abnormal dosimetry results since there are almost always the result of a
>>>> medical procedure.  For example, I had a stress test some time ago with
>>>> Tc-99m. Leaving the Cardiologist's office I was registering 18 mR/hr on
>> my
>>>> Fluke Biomedical 451P - or about 50 times of what we allow on our
>>>> equipment!
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Hans
>>>> 
>>>> Hans J. Wiegert
>>>> Sr. Electrical Engineer - ECL Technology
>>>> Regional Radiation Coordinator
>>>> CRYOVAC, Sealed Air Corporation
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> CRYOVAC, Sealed Air Corporation
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> Hans J. Wiegert
> Sr. Electrical Engineer - ECL Technology
> Regional Radiation Coordinator
> CRYOVAC, Sealed Air Corporation
> 100 Rogers Bridge Rd., Bldg. A
> Duncan, SC 29334-0464
> Tel: (864) 433-2641
> Fax: (864) 433-3200
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