[ RadSafe ] Polonium-210 poisoning again?

Wed Jul 4 20:04:38 CDT 2012

Franz, Radsafe,

      Some PoBe neutron source  energy  spectra are in Accelerator Health 
Physics by
Patterson and Thomas,  if you can even find a copy anymore.

      Joe Preisig

In a message dated 7/4/2012 5:09:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
franz.schoenhofer at chello.at writes:

Joe and  other RADSAFErs posting on the Po-210-issue:

I have a few years ago  been in London, just at the time when first 
messages about "Litwinenko"  appeared in the British papers. There was a lot of 
nonsensical speculations  and it took a long time (days) until Po-210 came out 
as the most likely  culprit. I was shocked, because Po-210 in such 
extraordinary concentrations in  urin would have been easily detectible within  a few 
tens of minutes by  Liquid Scintillation Spectrometry. Together with my 
collegue - probably I  should rather say, my collegue Gabriele Wallner with me! 
- we showed an  extremely fast way to decide on Po-210 poisoning via urine 
excretion.  

The paper of Gabriele and me was presented at the last LSC cto  onference 
in Paris (LSC 2010). You can easily find it on Google, if you are  interested.

Yes, most of Po-210 comes from Russia, which a simple  Google Research 
would have revealed. There you would also find, what Po-210 is  used for except 
killing people.........

Best regards to the innocent  USA, which obviously buys Po-210 from  Russia.

Franz

---- JPreisig at aol.com schrieb:
>  Hmmmm,
>  
>        Are these Po-210  sources coming from  the former USSR countries?  
> Are these  "folks"
> trying to use  Po-210Be as a neutron initiator for their  fission  
> devices.???  Can't they find 
>  Americium????   Hmmmm.
>  
>       Regards,   Joe Preisig
>  
>   
>  
>  
> In a message dated 7/4/2012 2:16:01  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> mso at forsmark.vattenfall.se  writes:
> 
> I wonder  if that is something to build a  conspiracy on. In the video 
there 
> is an  example saying that  they are in the mBq region in their analyses, 
> which means  that  there would have been GBq amounts 8 years ago at the 
time of 
>  Arafats  death (which would have been bad, mmmkay?). That's assuming 
that  
> the Po-210 is  not produced from natural decay. It seems that  they rule 
this 
> out by saying  that the Po-210 is "unsupported".  What would that mean 
> exactly, and how would  that be shown?  After 20 or so half-lives, it 
seems to me 
> that it would be   difficult to show anything at all about the chemistry.
> 
> Also,  what would  the natural amount of Po-210 be, compared to their 
>  results... It's impossible  to do a proper comparison of course, since  
it's not 
> said how they have  prepared their samples. Anyway, a  quick google 
search 
> gives you   [http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/6a52.pdf] with some naturally 
occuring 
>  Po-210  levels. Those do not make the French poisoning theory seem very  
> plausible to  me. Difficult to say without a proper report,  though.
> 
> Mattias  Olsson
> Sweden
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> It is reported by Al Jazeera that   elevated levels of Po-210 were found 
by 
> the Institut de Radiophysique  in  Lausanne, Switzerland, in some of 
Arafat's 
> final  personal  belongings:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/cfue36e
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