[ RadSafe ] "overwhelming" number of scientists andclimatechange

Jess L. Addis III ajess at clemson.edu
Wed Jul 25 21:02:09 CDT 2012


Greenland melted yesterday!

Cheers,
Larry

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From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:09 PM
To: Terryj at iit.edu; Karen.Street at sbcglobal.net; Jerry Cohen; The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "overwhelming" number of scientists andclimatechange

Jerry, Terry, Karen,

I wondered the last days, whether I was on the right list - climate change, global warming and the like instead of radiation protection, nuclear energy (and the like). Karen seems to be a (polite) troll, because she changes (again politely) the subject away from radiation protection. She uses a lot of psychological tricks, like "I am curious what you believe on global warming" and similar. If you really want to know my "opinion", which does not count at all: I have no opinion, because I have (except common sense) no knowledge about climatology nor paleoclimatology. Do you or anybody else on this list believe that the climate will behave as  being determined by an opinion poll????????This is absurd!!!!!!

Jerry, as for your belief on having another beer: This is a very clever decision and I would like to join  you, but unfortunatély I have in spite of the high temperatur in Vienna a sour throat and this means I should not drink any cold liquid - and a warm beer is the worst drink I can think of!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Franz



---- Jerry Cohen <jjc105 at yahoo.com> schrieb:
> Karen,, I am curious--how do we determine what the overwhelming number 
> of
scientists believe  or not believe. Of the 100 or so scientisst who I might personally know, almost all of them believe that concern over global warming is nonsense. Of course, the number of scientisists who I might personally know is a small frection of the total number, but I suspect it might be a representative sample. Has anyone done a statistically valid survey on the subject?
As to what do I believe-----
    I believe I'll have another beer.



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From: Karen Street <Karen_Street at sbcglobal.net>
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Tue, July 24, 2012 12:12:54 PM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] since we're talking about climate change

In the past and just now, people on this list who don't accept climate change have posted that they don't accept climate change.

I am curious as to what you do believe.

Please avoid explaining that the overwhelming number of scientists are wrong or read this or that this great scientist thinks other scientists are wrong.

• Is Earth warming, and at what rate (in °C/decade)?
• What is the cause? Don't use the word natural, but give particular mechanisms, such as Earth is moving closer to the sun.

When I ask climate skeptics/deniers these questions, it feels like pulling teeth to get answers other than, "you're wrong, you child of Satan." Or the ones about natural or scientists are just wrong or here is my scientist (inject name of novelist or journalist) who disagrees.

I really am curious.
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Best wishes,
Karen Street
Friends Energy Project
blog http://pathsoflight.us/musing/index.php

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Franz Schoenhofer, PhD, MinRat
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