[ RadSafe ] Uranium buckyballs

[Dan McCarn]

Hi Group:

Quoting from the press release:

"In other words, these clusters could form on the surface of a fuel rod
exposed to seawater and then be transported away, surviving in the
environment for months or years before reverting to more common forms of
uranium, without peroxide,  and settling to the bottom of the ocean. There
is no data yet on how fast these uranium peroxide clusters will break down
in the environment, Navrotsky said. "

So, if they even exist, they have no idea about the kinetics of
dissolution, so, in their minds, it must be persistent.  That is one heck
of a leap of faith and an embarrassing admission with absolutely no field
data to support their conjecture. Who taught these guys scientific method?
 Who "peer reviewed" that paper?  Or was there any peer review?

But the truth is that there is an enormous amount of uranium already
dissolved in the ocean.  These solutions circulate in the oceans until they
become chemically reduced and trapped in the muck forming marine black
shales and marine phosphorites.  The black shales and phosphorites contain
about 100 mg/kg U.

-- 
Dan ii

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Harrison, Tony <
Tony.Harrison at dphe.state.co.us> wrote:

> The UC Davis press release is, of course, more interesting and less
> inflamatory:
>
> http://news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=10131
>
> So it seems It's a corrosion issue, and there is some real science behind
> it, but no evidence that any such items have made their way to North
> America (except in the imaginations of the anti-nukes.)
>
>
> Tony Harrison, MSPH
> Inorganic & Radiochemistry Supervisor
> Laboratory Services Division
> Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment
> 8100 Lowry Blvd.
> Denver, CO 80230
> 303-692-3046 | tony.harrison at state.co.us<mailto:tony.harrison at state.co.us>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:09:15 -0700
> From: "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV<mailto:
> Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>>
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Uranium containing spherical
>       particles(buckyballs??_from Fukushima
> To: "parthasarathy k s" <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:ksparth at yahoo.co.uk>>,
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> I would be interested in seeing any evidence at all that uranium forms
> bucky balls.  I believe the smallest formation uses 60 atoms, which if made
> with uranium rather than carbon, would have to result in one of the densest
> molecules ever discovered.  I would be interested in knowing how such
> molecules were transported to America: I would be only a little less
> surprised at a claim that chunks of fuel rods wafted across the ocean.
>
> Of course, even if the uranium did make bucky balls, they would barely be
> radioactive.  I don't remember what the specific activity for uranium is on
> a per atom basis, but I do recall being impressed at how low it was.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Uranium containing spherical
> particles(buckyballs??_from Fukushima
>
> Dear List members
>
>
> I received the following news item today.
>
>
>
>
> ?
> http://www.readersupportednews.org/news-section2/344-208/11859-a-radioactive-nightmare
>
>
> I find it difficult to believe? that uranium containing spherical
> particles released from the molten fuel in Fukushima? started appearing in
> US beaches
>
> Regards
> Parthasarathy
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