[ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood leukaemia

Thu Jun 28 14:41:23 CDT 2012

Dan and all RADSAFErs,

I have followed the discussion about this bluntant nonsense, but I still do not understand, what makes it worth to comment on it. The only comment for it should be: "NONSENSE". 

I know very well the strategy of antinuclears and other GREENS, to raise hundreds if not thousands of ridiculous and unfounded claims in a few sentences, all unfounded and wrong. They keep scientists busy and prevent them from doing reasonable work. 

Why do you not simply answer their ridiculous claims with the above mentioned "NONSENSE"????

Best regards,

Franz

---- Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> schrieb:
> If copies of the paper are available, please send me a copy!
> 
> Well beyond the tropstrata
> There is a region stark and stellar
> Where, on a streak of anti-matter
> Lived Dr. Edward anti-Teller.
> 
> Remote from Fusion’s origin,
> He lived unguessed and unawares
> With all his anti-kith and kin,
> And kept macassars on his chairs.
> 
> One morning, idling by the sea,
> He spied a tin of monstrous girth
> That bore three letters: A. E. C.
> Out stepped a visitor from Earth.
> 
> Then, shouting gladly o’er the sands,
> Met two who in their alien ways
> Were like as lentils. Their right hands
> Clasped, and the rest was gamma rays.
> 
> *Harold P. Furth (The New Yorker, 1956)*
> 
> Best,
> 
> -- 
> Dan ii
> 
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> 
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) <
> Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov> wrote:
> 
> > This of course brings up the question, "does anti-matter matter?"  And
> > if it does matter, does that mean it annihilates, and doesn't any more?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dixon, John E.
> > (CDC/ONDIEH/NCEH)
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:02 AM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood
> > leukaemia
> >
> > I like the suggestion. K-40 is a positron emitter. I know part of
> > natural background is due to what food/water we ingest. The idea
> > postulated by the UK study, well...it makes my eyeballs bleed.
> >
> > Here's to the prevalence of common sense.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John E. Dixon, CHP
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Brennan, Mike
> > (DOH)
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:20 PM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood
> > leukaemia
> >
> > Tell him that the K40 in his body is also producing antimatter; that
> > will really freak him out.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jess Addis
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:08 AM
> > To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> > List'
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood
> > leukaemia
> >
> > I was just explaining to  one of my Genetics and Bio Chem guys that a
> > significant amount of his annual exposure came from within his own body
> > and that I could use him to "calibrate"/locate the k-40 peak on a geli
> > detector.
> > He was amazed.
> >
> > I'd be very interested to read the leukemia study.
> >
> > Larry Addis, RSO
> > Clemson University
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of John R Johnson
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:59 AM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood
> > leukaemia
> >
> > John
> >
> > "if that is even possible" Its not possible. Mammals can't without
> > potassium
> > (K) and all K contain K-40.
> >
> > John R Johnson
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Dixon, John E. (CDC/ONDIEH/NCEH) <
> > gyf7 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > I would love to see all of the data. Seems that this "study" is making
> >
> > > a HUGE reach. Humans are all born into a field of background
> > > radiation. Have these folks looked into the other end of the spectrum
> > > here? What does the ABSENCE of all radiation () do to the childhood
> > leukemia rate?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > John E. Dixon, CHP
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> > > radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of ROY HERREN
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:22 AM
> > > To: radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu
> > > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Natural gamma rays linked to childhood leukaemia
> > >
> > > http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2012/120612.html
> > >  Natural gamma rays linked to childhood leukaemia
> > >
> > > A small but statistically significant link between risk of childhood
> > > leukaemia and the gamma rays we are all exposed to from our natural
> > > environment has been detected in a very large study led by Oxford
> > > University researchers.
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