[ RadSafe ] Global Warming, Sunspots...

[JPreisig at aol.com]

Dear Radfsafe, Howard Long:
 
     Hope you all are well.
 
     The data you point me towards on the petition  project are pretty 
compelling.  I'll have to look at the
competition's data at another time.
 
     Howard Long, you would be well-advised to not just  refer to something 
going on with sunspots,
and start using solar irradiance or whatever solar (flux density???) unit  
the petition project is using.
Your arguments would be more convincing.
 
    Many of the data from the petition project need error  bars.  Any such 
petitioner who advances
such data without error bars (especially physicists!!!) needs to get  
cracking on adding error bars to
their data.  Old data have severely large error bars.  Back in  the day 
there was limited spatial 
coverage of weather  data over the surface of the Earth.  You  folks from 
California could have
Walter Munk (UCSD/Scripps) in for a talk about Global Warming, Earth  
temperature, if he still is
around.
 
    Since about 1984 serious VLBI and Atmospheric Angular  Momentum data 
started to be taken by
various government agencies.  I hope this data collection effort is  
continuing.
 
    So, it seems, right now, with respect to global warming,  there is the 
petition project camp which
suggests everything is OK globally.
 
    Then there is the Gore/more liberal/more environmentally  science 
oriented camp that says
something is very wrong and we need to modify our Energy etc.  behavior.
 
    I'm not sure on what side most of the Global Circulation  Modeller 
types sit.  Sometimes GCM's
give good results.  Sometimes it is GIGO --- Garbage In, Garbage  Out.  
Understanding of the problems involved is more important than blindly  applying 
some large/fast computer model.  That being said,
 much weather prediction is still based on satellite images we get  from 
above.
 
     Nuclear power has its place in all this--- in  terms of atmospheric 
problems, it is relatively clean.
The High Level Waste can be readily handled, and reprocessed one day as  
necessary.  If the 
environmental types would back off on some of the legal stuff that is  
choking the building of new
nuclear plants, USA and other World societies would benefit.  No more  
building reactors
down on the ocean coast in tsunami-land, however.
 
     Right now, we must venture a bit on the side of  caution and/or 
safety.  Global warming data need to
become better.  Global populations need to be controlled somewhat, and  
perhaps reduced
in a well-planned manner.  The Earth supports 3 billion people more  
readily than 6 billion people.
I don't really think it can be business as usual at this time.  As  usual, 
the upcoming USA 
Presidential election will decide who gets to run somewhat the USA for the  
next four years.
The businessman or the liberal guy.  One is a business as usual guy  and 
one is probably too much
of an Environmental-Left Winger.  You can be sure the College kids  will 
get the vote out.
The liberals in the USA will vote their conscience.  And the people in  the 
midwest and elsewhere
who are tired of being unemployed will vote in the direction they  will.
 
     Many of the combatants on each side have PhD's and  name recognition.  
So What????!!!!
 
     Take Care...  Regards,   Joseph R.  (Joe) Preisig, PhD
 
 
   
 
In a message dated 6/26/2012 6:44:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
howard.long at comcast.net writes:

Joe,
Look at the coinciding overlay of sunspots and global  temperatures
(and the credibility of the authors) at  www.petitionproject.org

Sunspot heat is also much more common sense  cause
than miniscule CO2 greenhouse effect - 
which follows so cannot  cause the slight global temperature increase.
Howard  Long

howard.long at comcast.net

On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:35 PM,  JPreisig at aol.com wrote:

> Dear Radsafe:
> 
>  
>     From:    _jpreisig at aol.com_  (mailto:jpreisig at aol.com)       .
> 
>  
>     Sunspots have an eleven year  periodicity.   See the book by Smith 
and 
> Jacobs.   Sunspots are not driving
> global warming.  Possible human effects  --- yes????!!!  See also  my 
> earlier postings about this  on
> Radsafe in the archives.  The effects are known in the  geophysics  
> community, but I'd be hard-pressed
> to give  you a book reference to describe Chandler wobble/Annual wobble 
beat 
>  phenomena and/or
> beating of two closely-spaced Chandler wobble  frequencies.   
Geophysicists 
> knowing about the
>  wobbles do write scientific articles about these phenomena.  People   
like:  
> Preisig, Dickman,
> Eubanks, Dickey, Wahr, Gross  and Chao, Smith and Dahlen, etc.  The  
> articles are out  there.
> Pretty much, they aren't standard reading matter for your  average health 
 
> physicist.
> 
>      Wikipedia has some pretty neat listings about  fusion, fission, 
>  nuclear weapons, etc.
> A Uranium fission weapon is described.  A  plutonium  fission weapon is 
> described.
> A Teller-Ulam  fusion (hydrogen) weapon is described.  Important for  
health  
> physics, yes???!!!!
> Hiroshima/Nagasaki data are important for  studying human health effects 
of  
> radiation.
>  
>     By looking at Soddy's Box, can radsafe  chemists  figure out what 
Soddy 
> was up to, 
> Chemically  speaking????
> 
>     Regards,    Joseph  R. (Joe)  Preisig, PhD
> 
> 
> 
> 
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