[ RadSafe ] High Level Waste to WIPP

Jerry Cohen jjc105 at yahoo.com
Tue May 22 11:06:24 CDT 2012


If our nuclear policies were rational (big if), we would reject the Carter 
policy of no reprocessing, and extract all fissile nuclides and useful fission 
products before disposing the remainder of nuclear waste. Remember, the idea of 
retrievability is political, not technical.
 
 


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From: John R Johnson <idiasjrj at gmail.com>
To: Jerry Cohen <jjcohen at prodigy.net>; The International Radiation Protection 
(Health Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:06:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] High Level Waste to WIPP

Jerry

Isn't the argument against this  "dump it in the ocean---"  is that we may
need it as fuel in the future?

John

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jerry Cohen <jjc105 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I used to think it was the NIMBY's, anti-nuks, and other assorted crazies
> who
> have prevented an accepted nukwaste solution. Now I believe it is the
> politicians, bureaucrats, and "researchers" who want to preserve their meal
> ticket by perpetuating the problem.
> Actually, HLW mgmt. is a simple problem, if all you were concerned about
> was the
> potentially harmful health and safrty  effects--- reprocess and extract
> useful
> fuel, solidify the waste in concrete, and dump it in the ocean---assuming
> one
> really wants to resolve the problem.
> "A voice in the wilderness"
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 2:39:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] High Level Waste to WIPP
>
> Hi Roy,
>
> The two counties Eddy and Lea both want the waste. They bought 1000 acres
> of
> land for repositories, first SALT 2 and now since long term storage has
> popped
> up, above ground temporary cask storage.
>
>
> http://www.platts.com/RSSFeedDetailedNews/RSSFeed/ElectricPower/6008995
>
> No NIMBY there.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Terry
> Assoc. Professor of Physics
> Life Science Bldg Rm 166
> Illinois Institute of Technology
> 3101 S. Dearborn St.
> Chicago IL 60616
> 630-252-9708
> terryj at iit.edu
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2012, at 4:28 PM, ROY HERREN wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> >    It pains me to write this, but you wrote "I personally see no reason
> that
> > WIPP could not manage
> > high-level waste".  What is your best Bill Clinton type of a definition
> of the
>
> > word "no"?  Did you mean "no" legitimate reason, or perhaps "no"
> scientific
> > reason?  Certainly you didn't mean to exclude "political - Not In My
> Backyard
> > (NIMBY) reasons....  It could be argued that the half life of NIMBY, at
> least
> > in the minds of those who are dead set against anything remotely having
> to do
> > with Nuclear Power, exceeds the length of the half life for all known
> > radioactive isotopes combined.  ;-)  The NIMBY Luddites are perfectly
> content
> > with the current status quo that is slowly killing the Nuclear Industry.
> >  Roy Herren
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com>
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> > <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> > Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 10:06:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] High Level Waste to WIPP
> >
> > Dear Christopher:
> >
> > Having been heavily involved over 4 years in the Performance Assessment
> > group for the WIPP, I personally see no reason that WIPP could not manage
> > high-level waste.  I was involved with the development of the GRASPINV
> > inverse groundwater modeling code written to model / calibrate the
> > transmissivities with measured heads for the the Culebra Dolomite - the
> > pathway to the accessible environment.
> >
> > --
> > Dan ii
> >
> > Dan W McCarn, Geologist
> > 108 Sherwood Blvd
> > Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
> > +1-505-672-2014 (Home – New Mexico)
> > +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
> > HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
> >
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, <Cmtimmpe at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The article presented in this URL:
> >>
> >> _
> >>
> http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/aiken/2012-05-10/srs-nuke-waste-if-not-yu
> >> cca-mountain-what-about-new-mexico?v=1336691258_
> >> (
> >>
>http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/aiken/2012-05-10/srs-nuke-waste-if-not-yucca-mountain-what-about-new
>w
> >>w
> >> w
> >> -mexico?v=1336691258)
> >> is  interesting more because of the comments than the content.  The
> >> commenter's  all harp on the fact that putting HLW in WIPP is illegal.
> >>  Somehow,
> >> they  seem to forget that laws are changed all the time to respond to
> >> various
> >> changes  in our worlds.  I'd like to see more of the nuclear community
> >> respond to  such negativism.
> >>
> >> Christopher  M. Timm, PE
> >> Vice President/Senior Project Manager
> >> PECOS Management  Services, Inc.
> >> 505-323-8355 - phone
> >> 505-323-2028 - fax
> >> 505-238-8174 -  mobile
> >>
> >>
> >>
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