[ RadSafe ] Mangano - Disease and death toll from Fukushima radiation needs careful, patient, tracking

Wed Sep 5 14:55:44 CDT 2012

John

I agree, and will also stress out that we have no way of "connecting" any
of the cancer that will occur in the population with the exposures.

John R J

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Dixon, John E. (CDC/ONDIEH/NCEH) <
gyf7 at cdc.gov> wrote:

> All,
> I am concerned about this RADSAFE thread.
>
> At the present time, there have been NO deaths (and diseases) directly
> attributable to the radiation and radioactive contamination released from
> (and present at) the damaged Fukushima reactor plants. The Japanese people
> have more serious matters with which to contend (e. g. 20,000 + deaths from
> the tsunami). Physiological effects can also result from the very real
> physical threats present, as well as from psychological stress (more from
> these stressors than from the low levels of radiation/radioactivity which
> are still present in the area).
>
> Since all probabilistic deleterious effects from low dose/dose rate
> radiation take TIME to manifest in humans AND it has been about 18 months
> since the releases occurred, I would expect that no relevant scientific
> significant "study" (especially the DATA) yet exists. At present, most of
> the work done on this topic is, at best, speculation.
>
> John E. Dixon, CHP
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Lantzelot
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:11 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mangano - Disease and death toll from Fukushima
> radiation needs careful, patient, tracking
>
> If anybody is interested I have put up a scrutiny of Mangano's latest joke
> on the NPYP web site:
> Blog post with general comments:
>
> http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/blog/2012/08/29/joseph-mangano-never-stops-and-he-never-gets-it-right/
> More detailed look into the numbers:
> http://nuclearpoweryesplease.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=757
>
> /Mattias Lantz
>
> --
> Mattias Lantz - Researcher
> ??? ?????
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> Division of Applied Nuclear Physics
> Uppsala University, Box 516
> SE - 751 20, Uppsala, Sweden
>
>
>
> On 08/19/2012 05:25 AM, Roger Helbig wrote:
> > Suggest that professionals make news media aware of all the
> > shortcomings of Mangano's past research and claims - he has
> > established himself with the help of Janette Sherman as an expert on
> > Chernobyl just like Busby has -
> >
> > Roger Helbig
> >
> > Christina MacPherson posted: "[in the 12 months after Fukushima]  an
> > excess of 38,700 Japanese deaths, with no obvious cause. Nobody should
> > yet race to conclusions that 38,700 Japanese died from Fukushima
> > exposure in the first year after the disaster.   The final element
> > nee"
> >
> > Disease and death toll from Fukushima radiation needs careful, patient,
> tracking
> >
> > by Christina MacPherson
> >
> > [in the 12 months after Fukushima]  an excess of 38,700 Japanese
> > deaths, with no obvious cause.
> >
> > Nobody should yet race to conclusions that 38,700 Japanese died from
> > Fukushima exposure in the first year after the disaster.
> >
> > The final element needed before conclusions are made is patience;
> > vital statistics must continue to be tracked, and compared with
> > radiation exposures to the Japanese people.
> >
> > [In 2009] A team of Russian researchers, led by Dr. Alexey Yablokov,
> > published results of 5,000 reports and articles on Chernobyl - many in
> > Russian languages never before made public. Yahlokov's team concluded
> > that near Chernobyl, increases in disease sand deaths were observed
> > for nearly every human organ system.
> >
> > Let the Counting Begin Fukushima's Nuclear Casualties
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/15/fukushimas-nuclear-casualties/
> > by JOSEPH MANGANO, 15 Aug 12 It's been nearly 18 months since the
> > disastrous nuclear meltdown at Fukushima.  There have been many
> > reports on the huge amounts of radioactivity escaping into the air and
> > water, unusually high levels in air, water, and soil - along with
> > atypically high levels of toxic chemicals in food - that actually
> > "passed" government inspection and wasn't banned like some other food.
> >
> > Conspicuously absent are reports on effects of radiation exposure on
> > the health of the Japanese people.  Have any health officials publicly
> > announced post-March 2011 numbers on fetal deaths, infant deaths,
> > premature births, birth defects, cancer, or other health conditions?
> > The answer so far is an emphatic "no."
> >
> > The prolonged silence doesn't mean data doesn't exist.  Japanese
> > health officials have been busy with their usual duties of collecting
> > and posting statistics on the Internet for public inspection.  It's
> > just that they aren't calling the public's attention to these numbers.
> > Thus, it is the public who must find the information and figure out
> > what it means.  After locating web sites, translating from Japanese,
> > adding data for each of 12 months, and making some calculations,
> > mortality trends in Japan after Fukushima are emerging. Read more of
> > this post
> >
> > Christina MacPherson | August 16, 2012 at 4:03 am | Categories:
> > health, Japan, Reference | URL: http://wp.me/phgse-73G
> >
> >
> http://nuclear-news.net/2012/08/16/disease-and-death-toll-from-fukushima-radiation-needs-careful-patient-tracking/
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