[ RadSafe ] "Communicating with the public and the press"

Estabrooks, H Bates (IHK) estabrookshb at y12.doe.gov
Wed Aug 21 08:45:12 CDT 2013

The EDGs were flood protected.  It's disingenuous to impugn the plant designers/builders by suggesting otherwise.  The seawalls were just not sufficient to protect against the historically unprecedented wave heights.


"The earthquake was followed by a 13-15 m (43-49 ft) maximum height tsunami arriving approximately 50 minutes later which topped the plant's 5.7 m (19 ft) seawall,[74][75][76] flooding the basement of the Turbine Buildings and disabling the emergency diesel generators[77][78] located there[73] at approximately 15:41.[71][79]"

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Are you saying that it takes a "prophetic" engineer to flood protect
emergency systems for a tsunami susceptible plant?
Bill Lipton
It's not about dose, it's

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From: Estabrooks, H Bates (IHK)
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How far beyond the "beyond design basis event/accident" do you design for?

The magnitudes of the earthquake and resultant tsunami were
historically unprecedented.

To insist on a design/build to protect against them would not have
called for a "courageous" engineer, but rather a prophetic engineer.
So far we have no degree programs for that skill.

Bates Estabrooks

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Instead of debating what brand of lipstick to put on the pig, we should
be addressing the real safety issues. You can never explain away
Fukushima or other fiascos.

Compliance with the letter of the regs is not good enough. One engineer
with the competence and courage to insist the emergency generators be
flood protected would have prevented a tragedy that will affect
Bill Lipton
It's not about dose, it's about trust.

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