[ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change

Ted de Castro tdc at xrayted.com
Wed Mar 6 20:49:58 CST 2013


I guess its our own fault for calling it "REPROCESSING" instead of 
"RECYCLING" - in which case instead of being prohibited - it would be 
required!

On 3/6/2013 6:16 PM, Jerry Cohen wrote:
> It has been over 30 years ago that president Carter established the 
> "no reprocessing" policy.
> Can anyone explain how, over this span on time, such an obviously 
> stupid policy has not been rescinded.
> Jerry Cohen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <JPreisig at aol.com>
> To: <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
>
>
>> RADSAFE,
>>
>>      I think Yucca Mountain would be a far better  place to store spent
>> nuclear fuel than around each Nuclear
>> power plant.  Getting the spent fuel there is another matter. Still,
>> getting the fuel there is do-able, and
>> the money for shipping might already have been collected.??? Sounds  
>> like
>> a Win/Win for the
>> US Economy???
>>
>>     Joe Preisig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/5/2013 1:04:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> jjcohen at prodigy.net writes:
>>
>> Hmmmm.  6000 ppm, 70,000,000 years ago. I wonder who made the 
>> measurement
>> and
>> what  instrumentation was used?
>> As I recall, at Yucca Mtn., the DOE spent much  $$$$ to determine the
>> effect
>> of decay heat on the
>> surrounding rock. I  could have saved them the expense by telling 
>> them that
>> the
>> temperature  would increase, but why would they take my word for it?
>> Jerry  Cohen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Anderson" 
>> <victor.anderson at frontier.com>
>> To: "'Eric Goldin'"  <emgoldin at yahoo.com>; "'The International Radiation
>> Protection  (Health Physics)MailingList'" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Sent:  Monday, March 04, 2013 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate  change
>>
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>>
>> One inconvenient fact; 70 million  years ago carbon dioxide levels were
>> about
>> 6,000 ppm.  The earth did  not change into a "hot house" planet like 
>> Venus.
>> Life is still very  sustainable.  So what if the global temperature is
>> rising.  Go  look at number for human generated carbon dioxide 
>> emissions and
>> divide it  my the mass of the atmosphere. You come out with a number 
>> in the
>> range of  20 ppm.  (I triple dare you).  This simple exercise does not
>> square
>> with the doom and gloom predictions.  Can someone please tell the 
>> truth for
>> once?
>>
>> Now about Yucca Mountain.  Placing spent  fuel bundles underground is 
>> indeed
>> safe.  The problem is that 50% of  each bundle is useable fuel. That 
>> has to
>> do with the way nuclear  reactors work.  (No, the used fuel stored in 
>> Yucca
>> Mountain can't go  critical; wrong geometry for one thing.)  So, my big
>> objection to  Yucca Mountain is that we are throwing away billions of
>> dollars
>> of  perfectly good fuel.  The United Stated should be reprocessing 
>> all  of
>> that fuel.  Proliferation of nuclear weapons is a pure bullshit 
>> argument.
>> The United States already is a nuclear power.  By  reprocessing the used
>> fuel, we would be turning in into a useable product  and the radioactive
>> material left could easily be made into compact, easily disposed 
>> packages.
>> Ultimately, the radioactive waste could be transmuted  into very 
>> short lived
>> radioactive materials that decay to inert materials  in a very short 
>> time.
>> DOE is working on transmutation.  Its really an  engineering problem 
>> having
>> to do with getting costs down so that is  competitive with burial.  Our
>> problems with using nuclear energy to  make electricity has more to 
>> do with
>> politics and flawed thinking than  anything else.  The accident at 
>> Fukushima
>> was about as bad as it can  get.  Number of deaths from radiation: ZERO.
>> Yes, I am including the  hypothetical cancer deaths from the low 
>> radiation
>> levels outside the  plant.  I want to see the bodies with the toe 
>> tags that
>> say, "Died  from radiation induced cancer due the Fukushima nuclear
>> accident."  No  one will be able to do that, because that are not 
>> there and
>> won't  be.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu]  On Behalf Of Eric Goldin
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:54 PM
>> To:  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate  change
>>
>> Thanks for some rational thought Susan. I always wonder about those who
>> accept computer models showing the safety of Yucca Mountain and 
>> reject the
>> computer models showing climate change. Ya can't have your cake and 
>> eat it
>> too . . . . Eric Goldin, CHP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> te: Sun, 3 Mar  2013 23:56:05 -0500
>>
>> From: S L Gawarecki  <slgawarecki at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate  change
>> To: RadSafe  <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CABtrgkVhxvYFu8LXxeTT_RkSGcte2_9nccH5AG2jDEOmZEXJzA at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Howard,
>>
>> How many of these  scientists are CLIMATE scientists?
>>
>> Think about how many scientists with  the Union of Concerned 
>> Scientists are
>> convinced that nuclear power can  never be safe, that any level of 
>> radiation
>> exposure will cause cancer,  etc.
>>
>> Scientists taking positions outside of their field are not much 
>> better at
>> judging the pertinent technical issues than the informed lay person.
>> Moreover, they are not immune from having political and social agendas
>> themselves.
>>
>> And if you reject global warming, I can send  numerous links that
>> demonstrate the accelerated melting of mountain  glaciers, ice caps, 
>> and sea
>> ice over the past 40 or so  years.
>>
>> Regards,*
>> **Susan Gawarecki*
>>
>> ph: 865-494-0102
>> cell:  865-604-3724
>> SLGawarecki at gmail.com
>>
>> Howard Long wrote:
>>
>> "Edward  Teller leads our 32,000 scientists, at www.petitionproject.org
>> with  conclusive data backing REJECTION of the selective, global tax 
>> hoax
>> of  global cooling, global warming or climate  change."
>>
>>
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