[ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
Ted de Castro
tdc at xrayted.com
Wed Mar 6 20:49:58 CST 2013
I guess its our own fault for calling it "REPROCESSING" instead of
"RECYCLING" - in which case instead of being prohibited - it would be
required!
On 3/6/2013 6:16 PM, Jerry Cohen wrote:
> It has been over 30 years ago that president Carter established the
> "no reprocessing" policy.
> Can anyone explain how, over this span on time, such an obviously
> stupid policy has not been rescinded.
> Jerry Cohen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <JPreisig at aol.com>
> To: <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
>
>
>> RADSAFE,
>>
>> I think Yucca Mountain would be a far better place to store spent
>> nuclear fuel than around each Nuclear
>> power plant. Getting the spent fuel there is another matter. Still,
>> getting the fuel there is do-able, and
>> the money for shipping might already have been collected.??? Sounds
>> like
>> a Win/Win for the
>> US Economy???
>>
>> Joe Preisig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/5/2013 1:04:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> jjcohen at prodigy.net writes:
>>
>> Hmmmm. 6000 ppm, 70,000,000 years ago. I wonder who made the
>> measurement
>> and
>> what instrumentation was used?
>> As I recall, at Yucca Mtn., the DOE spent much $$$$ to determine the
>> effect
>> of decay heat on the
>> surrounding rock. I could have saved them the expense by telling
>> them that
>> the
>> temperature would increase, but why would they take my word for it?
>> Jerry Cohen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Anderson"
>> <victor.anderson at frontier.com>
>> To: "'Eric Goldin'" <emgoldin at yahoo.com>; "'The International Radiation
>> Protection (Health Physics)MailingList'" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
>>
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>>
>> One inconvenient fact; 70 million years ago carbon dioxide levels were
>> about
>> 6,000 ppm. The earth did not change into a "hot house" planet like
>> Venus.
>> Life is still very sustainable. So what if the global temperature is
>> rising. Go look at number for human generated carbon dioxide
>> emissions and
>> divide it my the mass of the atmosphere. You come out with a number
>> in the
>> range of 20 ppm. (I triple dare you). This simple exercise does not
>> square
>> with the doom and gloom predictions. Can someone please tell the
>> truth for
>> once?
>>
>> Now about Yucca Mountain. Placing spent fuel bundles underground is
>> indeed
>> safe. The problem is that 50% of each bundle is useable fuel. That
>> has to
>> do with the way nuclear reactors work. (No, the used fuel stored in
>> Yucca
>> Mountain can't go critical; wrong geometry for one thing.) So, my big
>> objection to Yucca Mountain is that we are throwing away billions of
>> dollars
>> of perfectly good fuel. The United Stated should be reprocessing
>> all of
>> that fuel. Proliferation of nuclear weapons is a pure bullshit
>> argument.
>> The United States already is a nuclear power. By reprocessing the used
>> fuel, we would be turning in into a useable product and the radioactive
>> material left could easily be made into compact, easily disposed
>> packages.
>> Ultimately, the radioactive waste could be transmuted into very
>> short lived
>> radioactive materials that decay to inert materials in a very short
>> time.
>> DOE is working on transmutation. Its really an engineering problem
>> having
>> to do with getting costs down so that is competitive with burial. Our
>> problems with using nuclear energy to make electricity has more to
>> do with
>> politics and flawed thinking than anything else. The accident at
>> Fukushima
>> was about as bad as it can get. Number of deaths from radiation: ZERO.
>> Yes, I am including the hypothetical cancer deaths from the low
>> radiation
>> levels outside the plant. I want to see the bodies with the toe
>> tags that
>> say, "Died from radiation induced cancer due the Fukushima nuclear
>> accident." No one will be able to do that, because that are not
>> there and
>> won't be.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Goldin
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:54 PM
>> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
>>
>> Thanks for some rational thought Susan. I always wonder about those who
>> accept computer models showing the safety of Yucca Mountain and
>> reject the
>> computer models showing climate change. Ya can't have your cake and
>> eat it
>> too . . . . Eric Goldin, CHP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> te: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:56:05 -0500
>>
>> From: S L Gawarecki <slgawarecki at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Teller and Climate change
>> To: RadSafe <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>> <CABtrgkVhxvYFu8LXxeTT_RkSGcte2_9nccH5AG2jDEOmZEXJzA at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Howard,
>>
>> How many of these scientists are CLIMATE scientists?
>>
>> Think about how many scientists with the Union of Concerned
>> Scientists are
>> convinced that nuclear power can never be safe, that any level of
>> radiation
>> exposure will cause cancer, etc.
>>
>> Scientists taking positions outside of their field are not much
>> better at
>> judging the pertinent technical issues than the informed lay person.
>> Moreover, they are not immune from having political and social agendas
>> themselves.
>>
>> And if you reject global warming, I can send numerous links that
>> demonstrate the accelerated melting of mountain glaciers, ice caps,
>> and sea
>> ice over the past 40 or so years.
>>
>> Regards,*
>> **Susan Gawarecki*
>>
>> ph: 865-494-0102
>> cell: 865-604-3724
>> SLGawarecki at gmail.com
>>
>> Howard Long wrote:
>>
>> "Edward Teller leads our 32,000 scientists, at www.petitionproject.org
>> with conclusive data backing REJECTION of the selective, global tax
>> hoax
>> of global cooling, global warming or climate change."
>>
>>
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