[ RadSafe ] Arctic Ice

[KARAM, PHILIP]

For those who are interested in more complete and precise information on this topic, you might want to check out this doctoral dissertation (http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~phuybers/Doc/thesis.pdf) that discusses many of these periodicities and how they affect incoming solar radiation (insolation). It was completed in 2004 and the author was a grad student at MIT. I have to confess that I have only skimmed it, but it looks to be well-researched and well-written. 

Andy

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     Of course.  In terms of Earth orientation  (with respect to the Sun) 
1998 was a polar motion amplitude high (strongly  dipping towards the Sun), 
while 2020 will be like 1976 (rather low polar motion  amplitude).  I've 
asked Chopo Ma (NASA Goddard) to plot the polar motion  amplitude with respect 
to time and/or Arctic/Antarctic Sea Ice percentage, and  we'll see if such a 
data plot will show up one day soon.  A good data plot  (with good fitting) 
should give some resolution to this question NOW.
 
    The VLBI earth orientation data are available from NASA  Goddard's Very 
Long Baseline Interferometry website, and someone else at NASA  has the 
Arctic/Antarctic ice percentage data.  Someone with a few weeks  available (at 
Sandia, Los Alamos or elsewhere) could do the World a service by  doing this 
calculation.  Good books on Earth Orientation are Munk and  MacDonald, 
Lambeck I and Lambeck II (Space Geodesy).  This stuff isn't  simple though.  Get 
Cranking???
 
 
     Joe Preisig
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2013 10:05:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mmiller at sandia.gov writes:

Worth  noting, of course.  However, one data point does not a trend make.   
Stay tuned for a decade or two.


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From: JPreisig at aol.com
To:  dickman at binghamton.edu
Sent: 9/21/2013  12:30:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time
Subj: Arctic Ice


Dr. Dickman/Steve:

News item today on Google News.

Sea  ice in the Arctic Ocean underwent a sharp  recovery this year from the 
 record-low levels of 2012, with  50 percent  more ice surviving the  
summer melt season, scientists said Friday.

Will  this trend continue???

Thus endeth Global  Warming????


Joe  Preisig







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