[ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News Claims] Extremely radioactive particle found in Japan - 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in Japan

Sat Apr 5 20:24:02 CDT 2014

Jaro:

Yep, black sands, also found in abundance in coastal areas of India. Since
there is a fair amount of Zr, the mineral Zircon (ZrSiO4) may also contain
up to several % U.
http://www.mindat.org/min-4421.html

Heavy mineral placers, either modern or ancient are almost always
radioactive and frequently occur in beach placers or stream placers because
they are "heavy" and differentiate themselves by either longshore drift
(beach placers) or in stream placers.

Dan ii

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On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Jaro Franta <jaro_10kbq at videotron.ca> wrote:

> Thanks for the additional hints.
>
> I pasted the video screen grabs next to an ORIGEN graphic showing a pie
> chart of fission product activity after 3 years post-shut down:  Evidently
> some important species are missing.
> In the second picture, I pasted the video screen grabs next to Wiki's
> description of Monazite - some good matches there.
>
> https://db.tt/DgFLkgzW
>
> https://db.tt/2AnuJ5SU
>
> FYI, there is also a transcript of the video sound track here:
> http://fairewinds.org/hottest-particle/
>
> Kaltofen talks about "black sand," claiming that "this material was
> vaporized during the accident. It condenses into these small particles and
> then they aggregate."
> Hmm.. I thought that condensed ceramic material takes the form of tiny
> spheres - that's not what I see in the video.
>
> Besides that, isn't Monazite typically in the form of "black sand" ?
> Like the stuff seen in this great video of a beach in Guarapari, Brazil:
> http://youtu.be/RvgAx1yIKjg
> Isn't that the same stuff that was found on a California beach a couple of
> months ago and blamed on Fukushima ? .was that Kaltofen also ?
>
> Kaltofen adds that "The particle that we examined was a mixture of fission
> products from a nuclear reactor and nuclear fuels. We looked at materials
> like Telurium, Radium 226."
> But while there is no significant Radium 226 activity in irradiated fuel,
> there is plenty in uranium ore that may be associated with Monazite.
>
>
>  Jaro
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Brad Keck
> Sent: April-05-14 12:51 AM
> To: ROY HERREN; The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News Claims] Extremely radioactive
> particle
> found in Japan - 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in Japan
>
> There were 2 screenshots purporting to be related to chemical or
> radiochemical analysis.  The there was an energy dispersive x-ray spectrum
> in which Si was by far the most abundant peak -  little detail was
> provided,
> but assuming silicon is the most abundant element,  I don't see how this is
> nuclear fuel related, even without criticizing the other elemental ID's,
> which I am sure deserve some criticism.
>
> A second set of images shows photomicrographs with Ce, Zr, Y, Eu, Sm typed
> in over the image - no data or rationale provided.  I presume they are
> suggesting these ID's result from gamma spectroscopy, rather than chemical
> analysis.  Although it is hard to make heads or tails of it with the lack
> of
> details, I didn't find any element of it to hold together technically.  But
> I am sure readers of RadSafe are not the intended audience.  :)
>
> Brad
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:38 PM, ROY HERREN <royherren2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > On the screen one sees on the video at
> > http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/04/extremely-radioactive-particle-foun
> > d-in-japan-300-miles-from-fukushima-news-banned-in-japan/
> > there is a graphic at 9:21/17:21, 11:30/17:21, and 12:23 - 12:34/17:21
> > that shows Ce, Zr, Y, Eu, Sm on the upper left hand side of the screen
> and
> Ce, Fe, La, Nd, Sm on the upper right hand side of the screen.  At which
> frame did you see the Si, Rb, O, Cs, Te, Sn, Fe, Pb, etc.?
> >
> >
> > Roy Herren
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jaro Franta <jaro_10kbq at videotron.ca>
> > To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> > List' <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 6:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News Claims] Extremely radioactive
> > particle found in Japan - 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in
> > Japan
> >
> >
> > Where did you see "Ce, Zr, Eu, Sm" ?
> >
> > On this screen grab from the video, all I see is Si, Rb, O, Cs, Te,
> > Sn, Fe, Pb, etc.
> >
> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11686324/Extremely%20radioactive%2
> > 0parti
> > cle%20found%20in%20Japan%20-%20%20300%20miles%20from%20Fukushima.jpg
> >
> > The Si peak might perhaps be for Si-31 (153y HL), but it's a weird
> > combination of isotopes.
> >
> > Jaro
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of ROY HERREN
> > Sent: April-04-14 8:27 PM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> > List
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News Claims] Extremely radioactive
> > particle found in Japan - 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in
> > Japan
> >
> > What I saw flashed up on the screen said "Ce, Zr, Eu, Sm".  In the
> > past I've had problems releasing Sm153 material due to Eu
> > contamination.  Couldn't the Eu and Sm be the result of a medical
> > isotope treatment, see http://www.rxlist.com/quadramet-drug.htm?
> >
> >
> > Roy Herren
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Brad Keck <bradkeck at mac.com>
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> > List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 12:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News Claims] Extremely radioactive
> > particle found in Japan - 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in
> > Japan
> >
> >
> > Isn't it amazing that the one hottest hot particle in all of Japan,
> > just 10 microns in diameter, just happened to get stuck on the blade
> > of the razor knife used to "sample "'the vacuum cleaner bags, or it
> > would have been lost for all time ?  Now what are the odds?  :)
> >
> > Interestingly the one x-ray spectrum they show looks a lot like some
> > sort of silicate - imagine a silicate being found in dust - AMAZING!
> >
> > Happy Friday, Everybody!
> >
> > Bradly D Keck
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 2014, at 4:23 AM, Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Has all the red flags that activists salivate at - even "news banned
> >> in Japan" - probably because it is not news!
> >>
> >> Roger Helbig
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: nuclear-news <comment-reply at wordpress.com>
> >> Date: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:42 PM
> >> Subject: [New post] Extremely radioactive particle found in Japan -
> >> 300 miles from Fukushima - News banned in Japan
> >>
> >> arclight2011part2 posted: " Published on 3 Apr 2014 A highly
> >> radioactive particle of suspected Fukushima core material was found
> >> in house dust in Nagoya, Japan. This home is 460 kilometers (300
> >> miles) from the accident site. This one microscopic dust particle has
> >> enough rad"
> >>
> >> Extremely radioactive particle found in Japan - 300 miles from
> >> Fukushima - News banned in Japan
> >>
> >> by arclight2011part2
> >>
> >> Published on 3 Apr 2014
> >>
> >> A highly radioactive particle of suspected Fukushima core material
> >> was found in house dust in Nagoya, Japan. This home is 460 kilometers
> >> (300
> >> miles) from the accident site. This one microscopic dust particle has
> >> enough radioactivity to be a real health hazard.
> >>
> >> arclight2011part2 | April 4, 2014 at 3:41 am | URL:
> >> http://wp.me/phgse-gWB
> >>
> >> Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser:
> > http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/04/extremely-radioactive-particle-foun
> > d-in-j apan-300-miles-from-fukushima-news-banned-in-japan/
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