[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

[Dimiter Popoff]

Oh, are you saying the listserver software can't do this automatically?
Even so it is not such an issue to modify it, the variable being set
now to [Radsafe] (static string) has somehow to be set to the poster
name & address, how hard can that be.

Dimiter

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>From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:48:44 -0500
>To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>	<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>
>No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time. 
>
>Jeff
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>> 
>> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and email of the posting person
>> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but marked by brackets
>> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
>> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that information.
>> 
>> Dimiter
>> 
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>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List"
>>>    <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>> 
>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached. 
>>> 
>>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed there policy and too many messages come with no attribution. 
>>> 
>>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard, we are losing much of the group. 
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa Woo
>>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on their
>>>> systems. A real shame!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sandy
>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>> 
>>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Date:  Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>> 
>>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not want
>>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>>> 
>>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to the
>>>> the new standard below:
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection (Health
>>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Blah, Blah, Blah  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>>> same standard.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This is
>>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jeff