[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Jeff Terry terryj at iit.edu
Sun Aug 17 22:09:34 CDT 2014 

That's odd too because messages I get from AMRSO have the sender's address as the to field. 

I will talk to them. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:02 PM, "Lemieux, Bryan P" <blemieux at uthsc.edu> wrote:

> Jeff,
> 
> The AMRSO listsever does this, I believe automatically.  I am sure the keeper of AMRSO could help you get this set up.  They show a header that its AMRSO, but on behalf of <this person with email address>....
> 
> Bryan Lemieux
> ________________________________________
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] on behalf of Jeff Terry [terryj at iit.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:57 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> 
> If anyone knows how to do it. I'll pass it along to our tech people.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think he means for the Listserver to insert that information automatically - just as it does "[RADSAFE]" - all in all a quite reasonable suggestion!  It seems reasonable that if a fixed field can be inserted that with some ingenuity someone could find a way to insert a variable - "sender" - field.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/17/2014 1:48 PM, Jeff Terry wrote:
>>> No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>>>> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and email of the posting person
>>>> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but marked by brackets
>>>> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
>>>> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that information.
>>>> 
>>>> Dimiter
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Dimiter Popoff, TGI             http://www.tgi-sci.com
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/sets/72157600228621276/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List"
>>>>>   <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed there policy and too many messages come with no attribution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard, we are losing much of the group.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa Woo
>>>>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>>>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on their
>>>>>> systems. A real shame!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>> Date:  Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>>>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not want
>>>>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to the
>>>>>> the new standard below:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection (Health
>>>>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Blah, Blah, Blah
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>>>>> same standard.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This is
>>>>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
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