[ RadSafe ] 4.4 billion year old crystal

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Emer,


Yes exactly as the ratio of U-238 to U-235 is assumed to be 137.88 due to their natural abundance on Earth so one need only to solve for for the lead ratio in the equation - for terrestrial crystals at least. The argument has been made for meteorites that the U-235 to U-238 needs to be established.



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Jeff,
They don't actually need the U-238 concentration as they look at the in-growth 
of Pb-206 from U-238 in a zircon crystal. The structure of Zircon (ZrSiO4) 
allows it to readily contain a uranium impurity but excludes a lead impurity. So 
once the zircon is formed (cooled and crystallizes) it starts the clock with all 
Uranium and no Pb.
The age is then determined by the Pb/U ratio. 

http://www.geology.wisc.edu/~valley/zircons/Wilde2001Nature.pdf

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On Behalf Of Kulp, Jeffrey (DOH)
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:58 PM
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Subject: [ RadSafe ] 4.4 billion year old crystal

Hello Radsafers,

 

I have a question about a news story I just read; it said that scientists in 
Australia had discovered a 4.4 billion year old zircon crystal. 

 

The article went on to say that they had dated it using uranium decay to lead. 

 

My question is how do they know what concentration of uranium the crystal 
started with? At present the concentration of uranium in the
earth's                                                 crust varies
quite a bit (two orders of magnitude or more?). Was the U concentration more 
uniform back when the crust just formed?

 

Given that the half-life of U-238 is roughly 4.4 billion years, how can they be 
so sure of its age?

 

Thanks in advance for the information


 

Jeffrey Kulp, RRPT

Radiation Health Physicist

Washington State Department of Health - ORP

16201 E. Indiana Ave. Suite 1500

Spokane Valley, WA 99216

(509) 329-2138 (Office)

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