[ RadSafe ] Nuclear-News/Global Research Claim - Until at least 2026 radi...

Sun Sep 14 17:22:00 CDT 2014

All,

The most recent data I have seen indicated that 134Cs has not been measurable anywhere in the pacific since 2012....   

"Kelp Watch," however, is actively collecting samples all along the Alaskan, Canadian and US Pacific coasts - so if any cesium re-concentrates in the Pacific and becomes measurable, they'll certainly catch it :}  

Nowhere does the article mention that for 137Cs, there is a normal component of a few Bq/m3 (weapons fallout), and the Fukushima contribution to that inventory is not enough to move the needle on the background level. As per usual, while the study authors indicate some of the massive uncertainties of their "mode,l" these do not get picked up by ENE news and passed along...  

There are already people claiming wildlife disasters on the west coast as a result of this "plume" :}    Undoubtedly, some of the alternative science crowd will find that there are dead sea lions in San Francisco as a result :}    

Brad

On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:08 AM, JPreisig at aol.com wrote:

> Radsafe,
> 
>    The eastward Pacific current is called the Kuroshiro  current (or 
> something like that).  It brings warm water from Japan to the  US west coast.  
> Maybe the article says what the actual activity  concentrations are.  Pacific 
> Ocean is a good source of dilution.  Ho  hum.
> 
>    Joe Preisig
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/13/2014 8:03:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> sandyfl at cox.net writes:
> 
> Roger,
> 
> I would only assume that there would be significant  dilution and the 
> farther
> the release gets moving eastward, the plume would  disperse quite a bit.
> Without looking at modeling maps, not sure what they  mean by a ³massive
> clump². Now if there is a current that essentially  remains consistent and
> the speed is slow, I suppose that this is possible.  Others probably have
> more data and can calculate the various forces that  would act upon the 
> plume
> and to what degree the majority of it would remain  intact and for how long.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sandy
> Retired,  Consultant
> 
> From:  Roger Helbig  <rwhelbig at gmail.com>
> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation  Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
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> Date:  Saturday, September 13,  2014 at 4:54 PM
> To:  RADSAFE  <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Subject:  [ RadSafe ]  Nuclear-News/Global Research Claim - Until at least
> 2026 radioactive plume  will continue to flow across Pacific
> 
> Seriously question that there is a  "massive radioactive plume" - is
> there any serious research being presented  here or is it just hype to
> recruit more for the anti-nuclear  crowd?
> 
> Roger Helbig
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:  nuclear-news <comment-reply at wordpress.com>
> Date: Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at  1:23 AM
> Subject: [New post] Until at least 2026 radioactive plume  will
> continue to flow across Pacific
> To:  rwhelbig at gmail.com
> 
> 
> Christina MacPherson posted: "assive Radiation  Plume from Fukushima
> Heading Toward American West Coast According to a  Scientific Report By
> David Gutierrez Global Research, September 11, 2014  According to
> scientific modeling systems used by the European Union,  the
> radioactive ocean plu"
> Respond to this post by replying above this  line
> 
> New post on nuclear-news
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> Until at least 2026 radioactive  plume will continue to flow across Pacific
> 
> by Christina  MacPherson
> 
> assive Radiation Plume from Fukushima Heading Toward  American West
> Coast According to a Scientific Report By David Gutierrez  Global
> Research, September 11, 2014 According to scientific modeling  systems
> used by the European Union, the radioactive ocean plume released  by
> the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster is likely to remain a  massive
> clump of radioactivity until it slams into the West Coast of  the
> United States in late 2017. On March 11, 2011, a massive  earthquake
> and tsunami struck Japan, knocking out power and cooling  capability to
> the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Within three days,  multiple
> meltdowns and reactor explosions had taken place. By March 25,  massive
> amounts of radioactive material were observed leaking directly  into
> the Pacific Ocean.
> 
> In 2013, the Nansen Environmental and Remote  Sensing Center in Norway
> used computer models to project the movement and  dispersion of this
> radioactive plume. Although the results of this study  have been cited
> in official Chinese government documents, they have not  been widely
> publicized.
> 
> Levels to remain high through at least  2026
> 
> The researchers used two separate scenarios to model leakage  of
> radioactivity from the Fukushima plant into the Pacific. The  first
> scenario assumed continuous and constant leakage for 20 days,  while
> the second assumed continuous and constant leakage for one  year.
> 
> Although delivering differing estimates of total radiation,  both
> models concluded that the pollution would remain in a  relatively
> unified mass and take the same path across the ocean until  crashing up
> against western North America. Both models show the plume  colliding
> with the U.S. West Coast and beginning to spread out starting  around
> late 2017, with a maximum concentration of radiation hitting the  coast
> toward the end  of
> 2018........http://www.globalresearch.ca/massive-radiation-plume-from-fukush
> ima-heading-toward-american-west-coast-according-to-a-scientific-report/5401
> 006
> 
> Christina  MacPherson | September 13, 2014 at 8:22 am | Categories:
> oceans, radiation  | URL: http://wp.me/phgse-hZN
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