[ RadSafe ] Collective Dose from Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[Sander Perle]

Joe,

SORRY!!! For some reason I was thinking Fukushima!

Regards,

Sandy
Retired, Consultant

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> Sandy
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> I think those UNSCEAR numbers are for Fukushima, not the weapons on Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki.  
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> I also recall that as of the 1980s, 55,000 had died of cancer of the 250,000
> who survived the weapons, and of those, about 500 were thought to be caused by
> the radiation exposure.  I used that tidbit in training visiting grad students
> at the AGS at BNL.
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> 
> I understand that since the 1980s, solid tumors have doubled in the survivors
> compared to unexposed, so beyond the collective dose, does anyone know how
> many survivors have died of cancer as of year 20XX, and how many of those
> fatal cancers are attributed to the radiation?
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> 
> Joe
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> Sent from Windows Mail
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> From: Sander Perle
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 7:20 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
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> From online summary of UNSWEAR:
> 
> I don¹t have a copy of the Report to assess myself:
> On April 2, UNSCEAR published its long-awaited Report
> <http://www.unscear.org/docs/reports/2013/13-85418_Report_2013_Annex_A.pdf>
> on Fukushima. Of prime importance are its estimates  of collective doses to
> the Japanese population.
> 
> Page 60 of Annex A of the UNSCEAR report contains the following table 8 on
> estimated collective effective doses and collective absorbed doses to the
> thyroid for the population of Japan (approximately 128 million in 2010).
> 
> Exposure duration Over first year Over ten years Up to age 80 years
> Collective effective dose 18,000 man-Sv 36,000 man-Sv 48,000 man-Sv
> Collective absorbed dose to thyroid 82,000 man-Gy 100,000 man-Gy 112,000
> man-Gy
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sandy
> Retired, Consultant
> 
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> Subject:  [ RadSafe ] Collective Dose from Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> 
>>  Does anyone know the collective dose from Hiroshima and Nagasaki?  I
>>  understand that there were 250,000 survivors (of the 500,000 inhabitants in
>>  both cities) who received from about 100 mSv to 1,000 mSv.  I believe that
>>  beyond that range, death from blast, fires, and other injuries along with
>>  radiation sickness resulted in few survivors.  If I take 300 mSv X 250,000 I
>>  get a collective dose of only 75,000 person-Sv, maybe twice Chernobyl.  That
>>  seems low to me.
>>  
>>  
>>  Joe Shonka
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