[ RadSafe ] Space Radiation Devastated the Lives of ApolloAstronauts

Wed Aug 3 12:17:05 CDT 2016

Sam,

You ask how significant this article is.

You are way to polite. This article is not only unacceptable because of its 
absurd "statistics", but also because of the "antiradiation" background, 
which uses to distort figures and findings to fit their own unfounded
and wrong claims.

I admit that I had a coronary infarction in about 1998, after having worked 
for about 20 years at the TRIGA Mark II reactor at the Austrian Atom 
Institute, about 30 m away from its core. Any hints for hiring a competent 
laywer in the
USA? Unfortunately I have to confess that the reasons were my former wife, 
the idiotic director of the institute, the Austrian legislation regarding 
care of children......... Not the radiation. I better stop here.

Best regards,

Franz

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From: Sam Grammer
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ApolloAstronauts

Considering disease is the leading global cause of death, not sure how
significant this article actually is

In 2008, cardiovascular deaths represented 30 percent of all global deaths,
with 80 percent of those deaths taking place in low- and middle-income
countries

https://www.heart.org/idc/groups/ahamah-public/@wcm/@sop/@smd/documents/down
loadable/ucm_470704.pdf

Thank you,
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   1. Re: Space Radiation Devastated the Lives of Apollo Astronauts
      (Mattias Lantz)

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:48:13 +0200
From: Mattias Lantz <Mattias.Lantz at physics.uu.se>
To: <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
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Small sample size indeed! According to table 2 in the report there are only
7 deceased Apollo astronauts. 3 of them died of cardiovascular disease,
making up the 43%.
Why is this even allowed to be published with the headline and the
speculations done in the article?

Best wishes,
Mattias Lantz

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On 07/29/2016 09:11 PM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) wrote:
> Small sample size makes this pretty shaky.  Additionally, their control
group is not of the same age cohort, and that might be significant.
>
> But be that as it may, SO WHAT?  These were men who competed in one of the
most comprehensive selection process the world has ever seen, to lay upon a
big bomb that (hopefully) explodes slowly at one end, so they could navigate
to another gravity well with less sophisticated equipment than I use to find
a new restaurant, so some of them could land, walk around, and come back.
Heck, I suspect if you told them there would be a 43% mortality rate during
the mission most would have still gone, and the slots of those that dropped
out would have been filled before the day was done.
>
> As I understand it, going to the Moon radically altered the lives of the
men who did it, though I doubt any would use the word "devastated".  Even if
what the authors of this study say is true, the astronauts traded some
quantity for quality, which is almost always the way Heroes choose.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Rahim Ghanooni
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:36 PM
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Space Radiation Devastated the Lives of Apollo
Astronauts
>
> New research points to serious concerns about human survival during deep
space travel.
>
> A startling new study has revealed that a troubling number of the lunar
astronauts from NASA's Apollo program are suffering high mortality rates due
to heart disease. The cause? Exposure to high levels of deep space radiation
during their trip to the Moon.
>
> This is the first time research has been done into the mortality of the
Apollo astronauts and it was published in Scientific Reports by Professor
and Dean of the college of Human Sciences at Florida State University,
Michael Delp. The conclusions drawn from studying the deaths of the only
humans that have ventured into deep space casts an immense shadow on the
manned missions to Mars being planned by both NASA and SpaceX.
>
> "We know very little about the effects of deep space radiation on human
health, particularly on the cardiovascular system," said Delp in an official
release. "This gives us the first glimpse into its adverse effects on
humans." Deep space refers to the frontier beyond Earth's protective
magnetosphere and atmosphere where only 24 humans in history-all Apollo
astronauts, have ever travelled.
>
>
http://observer.com/2016/07/space-radiation-devastated-the-lives-of-apollo-a
> stronauts/
>
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