[ RadSafe ] Reference for the word 'shake' ...and other sneaky Manhattan project words

[Franz Schönhofer]

When I was a student many, many, many decades ago the professor who taught
us principles of radioactivity mentioned when research was done on cross
sections someone mentioned the dimensions of 10E-24cm2 and some other
scientist exclaimed "That is as big as a barn!" For such anecdotes there
are usually no citations or sources known. "If this has been invented it
was well invented." For me it is funny that *I still remember that though I
cannot keep my own telephone number by heart*. If someone does not close a
door behind him we use to say in German that the door is wide open like a
barns door. Maybe some connection?

Best regards,

Franz

2016-02-04 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ed Waller <ed.waller at xplornet.com>:

> All,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions thus far.
>
> Just to bound the problem, I know what a shake is; I know what a barn is.
> I
> sorta got all that knowledge when I did my PhD in nuclear engineering at
> RPI
> and subsequent work in various effects from source terms that happen on
> 'shake' timeframes.
>
> What I was asking was if anyone knew of a reference to these terms. I
> realize shake refers to 'two shakes of a lamb's tail', but who said it
> first? where is it documented?  Is it documented?  I am thinking there must
> be some obscure declassified reference, or book or memoirs, etc that can
> constitute a proper reference...I just cannot find it.  I thought the
> collective history might point me in the right direction.
>
> With kind regards,
> Ed
>
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> All,
>
> As part of some writing I am doing, I am trying to find origins of terms
> used in the nuclear field that are somewhat obscure.
>
> I have a reference for 'barn' (Note on the origin of the term "barn",
> Holloway and Baker, LAMS-623, 1947)
> [aside: Also, I have found some anecdotal evidence for a millibarm being a
> 'skilodge' and a microbarn being an 'outhouse', but no reference. I have
> also seen a reference to 1E-48 cm2 being a 'shed', but again no reference.]
>
> However, some other terms, such as 'shake', I am having a harder time
> finding a proper reference. Google has revealed lots of usage, and some
> secondary and tertiary referencing, but I cannot believe there is not a
> primary reference somewhere for this, and other terms like this.
>
> If anyone could help, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Best regards,
> Ed
>
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