[ RadSafe ] [EXTERNAL] Re: Radsafe participation

McClung, Danny Danny.McClung2 at va.gov
Mon Sep 17 10:51:06 CDT 2018


I would like to say to Dan McCarn and all of you:  I have no superior knowledge in any subject.  I'm a lifelong learner though.

Dan, I would like you to reply to me privately concerning the text you reviewed.

Danny

Danny K. McClung, BS, RRPT, Health Physicist
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] [EXTERNAL] Re: Radsafe participation

Dear Danny:

I bow to your superior knowledge. 

Dan W McCarn, Geologist
2262 38th Street; Apt. A
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> On Sep 13, 2018, at 06:36, McClung, Danny <Danny.McClung2 at va.gov> wrote:
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> Dan,
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> Perhaps you meant to say "registered radiation protection 
> technologists" (NRRPT)?  😊
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> Please contact me regarding the text you reviewed.  
> cardinalhp at gmail.com<mailto:cardinalhp at gmail.com>
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> Danny
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> Danny K. McClung, BS, RRPT, Health Physicist
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> Radiological Consultant for Post Deployment Health Service
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> VHA Office of Patient Care Services (10P4Q)
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> Member, VHA National Radiation Safety Committee
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> Member, DoD JPC-7, Radiation Health Effects Research Program
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> e-mail:  danny.mcclung2 at va.gov;  Telephone: 202-527-2323
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> http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/radiation/index.asp
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> From: RadSafe [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf 
> Of Dan McCarn
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ RadSafe ] Radsafe participation
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> Tuesday afternoon, yesterday,  I reviewed a textbook for a RCT course, which - even as a geologist - I found inadequate. “What are they teaching kids these days?”
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> The most simple algebra was included. The words “ingrowth” and “secular equilibrium” did not appear at all. I had expected to see a short section on the first few Bateman’s Equations, but they were not presented. But then, I’m a geologist and all geologists have read Bateman (1910).
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> More importantly, where does a newly baked RCT go with problems / answers?
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> Perhaps Radsafe might drill down to the technician level but please leave the extremists out.
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> Best,
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> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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> 2262 38th Street; Apt. A
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>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 01:04, Rees, Brian G <brees at lanl.gov<mailto:brees at lanl.gov>> wrote:
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>> I don’t believe it’s the appearance of the “site”, but a change in the participation of people in general in social and professional exchanges.  I really don’t want to see the trolls back, since they added nothing positive, but they did get us fired up!
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>> What I believe we need to do is: 1) encourage the newer members of our profession to join Radsafe, 2) encourage them to ask questions, and 3) chime in with assistance when questions are asked.
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>> I’ve been on Radsafe for almost 25 years now(!) and it’s been invaluable to me because of the varied questions, ranges of responses, and diversity of people answering the questions.  Otto, Carol, Sandy, Franz, Doug, Andy, and countless others have added to my knowledge and perspective of this wonderful and diverse profession.  Where else can you hear from highly esteemed professors, NRC members, Vendors, and others on topics of interest to many of us?  I’ve thought before about petitioning ABHP and NRRPT to allow CEUs for Radsafe membership, I know it has added  greatly to my professional base of knowledge and challenged my perspectives.  And I’ve made many professional friends here as well!
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>> So, get new colleagues to join, encourage questions, provide meaningful answers, advice, feedback, and support!
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>> From: McClung, Danny 
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>> To Henry Rose:  LIKE!  😊
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>> Henry "Liked" this post. ^
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>> And, ok, you are nostalgic or old fashioned or what have you! ;-}
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