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Re: Misuse, Susan Gawarecki's response



"Vernig, Peter G." wrote:

> If it was the toilet in my house, I could do it.  But this is an
> institutional toilet and I don't see a shut off valve.  There must be a way
> to do it, but I don't know if it is at the individual toilet or if there is
> a valve somewhere that would shut off water to the whole hall or what.
> Actually turning off the water is probably unnecessary.  The real bugger in
> a toilet [I know this from personal experience] is under the rim.
> Apparently the flush swishes iodine laced urine up there and it dries.  If
> waxing or application of anything would help, it could be done there without
> turning off the toilet.  I have, on occasion tried a thing or two.  I tried
> a KI solution which had little or no effect.

How about: Don't flush (cover handle), pour water from a bucket to flush to
prevent 'swishing' action. Do it also before use to reduce the reservoir of
water in the bowl? (Then use liquid/spray-wax?)

Regards, Jim
muckerheide@mediaone.net
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> One of my problems is that we do this pretty infrequently.  Two or three
> times a year, although in the last 6 months we've done 4.  Remembering all
> the little tricks is a problem and also preparing to try something new like
> the "waxing" of a toilet usually gets put off then we get a patient and it's
> easier to do it the old way....
> 
> BTW a trick I picked up on Radsafe I think that works well is Draino in the
> sink.  Iodine sticks to pipe crud.  Put some Draino in while you are
> prepping the room and then flush it out.  Then when you are cleaning the
> room apply it a couple or three times while you are deconing and surveying
> and it greatly reduces the radiation coming from the trap.
> 
> Regards to all and thanks for all the helpful suggestions.
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zack Clayton [mailto:zack.clayton@epa.state.oh.us]
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 12:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: Misuse, Susan Gawarecki's response
> 
> Zack Clayton
> Ohio EPA - DERR
> email:  zack.clayton@epa.state.oh.us
> voice:  614-644-3066
> fax:        614-460-8249
> 
> >>> "Vernig, Peter G." <Peter.Vernig@med.va.gov> 03/03/00 10:10AM >>>
> 
> >Yah sure me and my staff do room decon.  [Run a one man shop here]  I
> always
> >try to have housekeeping wax the floor prior to a patient.  I don't use
> >razor blades, any contamination usually comes up pretty easily from a
> >freshly waxed floor.  Now if we could just wax the toilet and sink.<<<<
> 
> Peter, thinking outside of the norm here - Is there any reason  they
> *couldn't* turn off the water to the toilet and wax the toilet and sink?  I
> know that's not the way those items are usually maintained, but having done
> janitor work long ago as a summer job, I can't think of any reason
> preventing it.  Other than normal custom of course.
> 
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