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Re: alpha particles and lung cancer
You always seem to "miss" the whole point. You never respond to anything
you get, and can't get the substance. You're not even trying to understand.
Let's not bother. I'll be back in a week or so.
> From: "Harry Hinks" <harryhinks@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:39:25 -0600 (CST)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: alpha particles and lung cancer
>
> Mr. Muckerheide,
>
> It looks like the work that is being ignored are the many studies performed
> in the U.S., England and elsewhere that do not show a hormetic effect with
> radon. I think these studies actually measured radon in the homes where the
> people lived who had lung cancer. I don't think Dr. Cohen's or Scheutman's
> studies do that. In the references provided by you, I see no radon studies
> performed by Dr. Becker. A friend in Ottawa said there was a group that was
> currently performing a study near Saxony that actually measured the radon in
> the homes where the people had the lung cancer. Do you know anything about
> this? Could a possible reason be that the studies you mentioned
> (Scheutmann, Conrady) are not being published is because they don't measure
> individual homes where the people developed the lung cancer? It may not be
> a conspiracy.
>
> I read the paper by Mr. Bogen. Why do you say Mr. Bogen's paper confirms
> Dr. Cohen's data? All Bogen said was that his paper shows that Cohen's data
> may be biologically plausible. That is a bit of a disconnect from confirms.
>
> What do you mean by your statement that Dr. Wichmann and others cloud the
> data? I am not sure what you mean by the word, obfuscate. Does this mean
> you think they fabricate the data? Do you think the other researchers in
> Finland, the States, England and elsewhere (Pershagen, Doll, Darby,
> Alavanja, Fields, Lubin)also cloud data? Are all these people
> establishment? In your opinion, where do researchers work that are not
> establishment? Could the large sums of money being made by the spas in
> Germany obfuscate the findings of the researchers at the spas?
>
> The favour of you reply is appreciated.
>
> Harry Hinks
> harryhinks@hotmail.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Some of your answers regarding Saxony are presented by Dr. Becker at:
>> http://cnts.wpi.edu/rsh/Docs/RSHSympNov00/Becker.htm
>>
>> see also a presentation paper at our 1999 Tokyo Symposium:
>> http://cnts.wpi.edu/rsh/Docs/ICONE7-Tokyo99/KB99-tokyo.html
>
>> This is the typical case of substantial work being ignored, especially work
>> by Schuettmann, Conrady, and others, while, like in the US, $ millions of
>> gov't/rad protection "research" funds are being dropped on establishment
>> people to obfuscate the data - Wichmann et al.
>
> Note also that Bernie Cohen's data have been independently confirmed based
>> on an entirely different analysis by Ken Bogen at LBL. Women lung cancer
>> mortality 1950-54 (60-80 yr old 4% smoking, 40-80 yr old, 11% smoking),
>> vs.
>> EPA by-county environmental radon data (not residential measurements).
>> See
>> the first 2 paragraphs of the "Methods and Materials" section, and Figure
>> 2a
>> to see the data plotted:
>> http://www.belleonline.com/n3v72.html
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards, Jim
>> muckerheide@mediaone.net
>
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