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radsafe-digest         Saturday, April 7 2001         Volume 01 : Number 028







In this issue:



    Re: Radon Web Site

    Apologies

    Re: Radon Web Site - heat

    Germany to ship nuke waste to France-Greenpeace

    Irresponsible weapons - Depleted uranium arms very harmful

    Re: Radon Web Site

    Re: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut

    Federal Appeals Court Dismisses Ward Valley Damages Suit

    Re: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut

    Re: Radon Web Site

    Depleted Uranium (Again)

    two purposes

    Re: (Another question )RE: Smear Collection Efficiency

    2nd test

    URGENT request for Mn-54 for seafloor sciesmic event study!

    RE: (Another question )RE: Smear Collection Efficiency

    RE: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut

    Re: Radon Web Site



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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:00:13 -0600

From: "Phil Hypes" <laradcon@HOTMAIL.COM>

Subject: Re: Radon Web Site



I like this quote even better:  "Radon is produced by the natural breakdown 

of radioactive heavy metals dispersed throughout the earth's crust. (fine so 

far, but read on and learn!) This spontaneous fission makes life on earth 

possible - it heats the earth's core."



I always thought that pressure heated the earth's core.  Also, how much does 

life on earth depend on geothermal heating?  Is life on earth really 

dependent on heat from the core?



For those of you who haven't looked at the site, it's selling concrete 

sealant.



Phil

laradcon@hotmail.com





>Found the following web site regarding radon gas in homes.  Could someone 

>in this group verify his statements.

>

>

>http://www.radonseal.com/radon-indoor.htm

>

>David Norman

>Norm-Rad Services



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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:04:09 -0500

From: "David Norman" <david.norman@norm-rad.com>

Subject: Apologies



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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:02:43 -0400

From: "Zack Clayton" <zack.clayton@EPA.STATE.OH.US>

Subject: Re: Radon Web Site - heat



Phil,



Yes life on Earth probably does depend on a hot core, and current theory is that the energy is supplied by radioactive DECAY.  



The molten core allows the dynamo mechanism to create the Earth's magnetic field that

Shields us biologically from a lot of particle bombardment from the solar wind,  and

Shields the atmosphere from solar wind erosion.

A molten core allows plate tectonic subduction and extrusion that recycles carbon and oxygen so everything doesn't lock up in sediments.  



Pressure by itself doesn't create heat, contraction under pressure creates heat.  The Earth gets warmer as you go deeper under the surface due to the insulating properties of thickness.  Without the decay heat the Earth would have frozen up long ago like Mars, with loss of magnetic shielding and a permanent case of rust.







Zack Clayton

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:25:07 -0700

From: "Sandy Perle" <sandyfl@EARTHLINK.NET>

Subject: Germany to ship nuke waste to France-Greenpeace



Index:



Germany to ship nuke waste to France-Greenpeace

British Energy Plans to Restart 2 Canadian Reactors by 2003

Bruce Power to spend C$340 million on reactor startup

EIS draft guidelines issued for nuclear waste dump

Hanford nuclear facility evacuated on false alarm

EBRD opens funds to Lithuania for closing N-plant

Newly created material defies laws of physics  

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Germany to ship nuke waste to France-Greenpeace

  

BERLIN, April 6 (Reuters) - Germany plans to send nuclear waste to 

France next week for the first time in three years since Berlin 

banned the return of its reprocessed waste from France, anti-nuclear 

activists said on Friday. 



The environmental group Greenpeace said it planned peaceful protests 

against what it expected to be shipments of some 30 tonnes of waste 

on Monday or Tuesday from three power stations in southwest Germany 

to the French reprocessing plant at La Hague. 



Anti-nuclear activists clashed with police last week when Germany 

took back the first cargo of reprocessed waste from France since 

Berlin banned the shipments in 1998 over concerns about radioactive 

leaks. 



France agreed in January to take more material from Germany's nuclear 

power plants for reprocessing if Germany accepted back waste already 

reprocessed in La Hague for long-term storage. 



Greenpeace spokesman Veit Buerger told a news conference in Berlin 

that last week's transport to Gorleben storage plant was "nothing 

more than a door opener." 



"The government is treating France as the atom toilet of Germany," he 

said. 



Protesters held up last week's shipment for a day by chaining 

themselves to the railway. German police said a week-long train 

strike in France could delay next week's shipment. 



German officials declined to give details of timings of the shipments 

for fear of attracting demonstrators. French reprocessing firm Cogema 

was not immediately available for comment on whether it was expecting 

new shipments from Germany. 



Buerger said the government planned 40 more waste shipments to La 

Hague this year. The deployment of some 30,000 police officers last 

week to guard the first transport to La Hague since 1997 cost the 

state around $50 million. 



Greenpeace would not give any details about its planned protests, but 

many activists say they hope that by driving up the cost of policing 

such transports they will persuade the government to withdraw more 

quickly from nuclear energy. 

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British Energy Plans to Restart 2 Canadian Reactors by 2003

  

Toronto, April 6 (Bloomberg) -- British Energy Plc, the U.K.'s 

biggest power generator, said it expects to restart two reactors at 

Canada's Bruce Power nuclear station, one of the world's largest, by 

2003. 



Restarting the reactors will cost C$340 million ($217 million), 

British Energy said in a statement released by Regulatory News 

Service. The Bruce station, about 80 miles (130 kilometers) northwest 

of Toronto, has eight nuclear units, four of which are currently out 

of service. 



British Energy last year agreed to lease the Bruce station from 

province-owned Ontario Power Generation Inc. in a contract worth as 

much as $3.5 billion over 43 years. 



Closing of the lease transaction is expected ``early this summer'' 

following a review by the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, British 

Energy said. 



British Energy owns about 80 percent of Bruce Power LP, the limited 

partnership that leases and operates the station. Canada's Cameco 

Corp. holds 15 percent, while two Canadian unions control the rest, 

said Cameco spokesman Jamie MacIntyre. 



Cameco, a Canadian uranium producer, is the sole supplier of fuel to 

the Bruce reactors

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Bruce Power to spend C$340 million on reactor startup

  

TORONTO, April 6 (Reuters) - Bruce Power said on Friday it will spend 

C$340 million over the next two years to restart two nuclear reactors 

at its Bruce A nuclear power plant. 



Bruce Power, a partnership between British Energy Plc <BGY.L> and 

uranium producer Cameco Corp. <CCO.TO>, said in a release that it 

will spend C$30 million over the next three months in the first phase 

of the start-up plan to bring units 3 and 4 of the Bruce A station 

back into service by the summer of 2003. The two units have a total 

generating capacity of 1,500 megawatts. 



All four units, leased by Bruce Power from Ontario Power Generation, 

are currently laid-up. 



The restart of the two reactors is conditional on a number of factors 

including financial closing of the Bruce transaction, expected by 

summer 2001, obtaining regulatory approval for the restart, and 

meeting performance targets for the four operational reactors at the 

Bruce B plant. 

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EIS draft guidelines issued for nuclear waste dump



6 April - Australian Broadcasting Corporation -   The Federal 

Government has issued draft guidelines for an environmental  impact 

statement for a proposed national low level radioactive waste  dump 

in the central north of South Australia. 



Federal Environment Minister Robert Hill says the draft guidelines 

will  cover the complete assessment of three potential sites near 

Woomera. 



He says the notion of a radioactive waste repository is a sensitive 

one,  and the guidelines will allow for full public access and 

comment . 



"The issue is to make sure that we've got the right site, we're using 

 the right processes for encasement of the waste, that the transport 

is  safe, that the conditions for work of the staff at the repository 

are  safe from both the health and environmental perspective, all of 

that  detail is what is being examined now," he said.

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Hanford nuclear facility evacuated on false alarm

  

RICHLAND, Wash., April 5 (Reuters) - Alarm bells forced 400 workers 

to evacuate a plutonium processing plant at the Hanford nuclear 

reservation on Thursday, though officials said no radiation had 

escaped. 



The site, which houses millions of gallons of highly radioactive 

waste dating back to the dawn of U.S. nuclear weapons production, has 

checked out clean, an Energy Department spokesman said. 



"There are absolutely no indications at this stage that we had any 

kind of a release of radioactivity," said Energy Department spokesman 

Mike Talbot. 



"The first order of business was to survey (workers) and assure that 

they had not been contaminated or exposed and they've all come back 

negative," Talbot said. 



False alarms are rare at Hanford, but Talbot said that appeared to be 

the only explanation. 



"Everybody is okay and at this point what we really think we are 

seeing is a mechanical difficulty with the alarm," he added. 



Talbot could not immediately say when the facility might reopen. 



"It would take a little time to recover," Talbot said. 



Officials in Washington and other Western U.S. states have urged the 

federal government to boost funding for nuclear cleanup in the 

region. 



According to Washington Attorney General Christine Gregoire, Hanford 

contains 53 million gallons of radioactive waste in underground tanks 

and about a million gallons have leaked into the soil and 

contaminated groundwater. 



The Energy Department is legally required by July 31 to break ground 

on a facility to convert the liquid waste into more easily stored 

glass but has yet to design the facility and probably will miss that 

deadline, Gregoire said last month. 

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EBRD opens funds to Lithuania for closing N-plant

  

VILNIUS, April 5 (Reuters) - The European Bank for Reconstruction and 

Development said on Thursday it had reached agreement allowing 

Lithuania to access funds for closing the first of two units at the 

Ignalina nuclear power plant. 



The EBRD said in a statement the agreement was also approved at a 

meeting of the 11 countries contributing to the Ignalina 

decommissioning support fund. 



"Today's meeting is a clear sign that the implementation of the 

decommissioning programme has started," Matthias Ruete, an 

enlargement director in the European Commission said. 



Last June Lithuania received pledges totalling about 208 million 

euros ($186.7 million) from the international community for projects 

related to decommissioning the first reactor that will cost Lithuania 

200 million euros up to closure in 2005. 



Countries donating to the fund so far include Austria, Belgium, 

Denmark, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden, 

Switzerland and the United Kingdom. 



The European Union (EU) pledged 165 million euros. It considers 

Ignalina unsafe because it was built to the same design as Ukraine's 

Chernobyl plant, cause of the world's worst civilian nuclear accident 

in 1986. 



EU-aspirant Lithuania has pledged to make a decision over closing 

Ignalina's second reactor in 2004, but the EU has said the country 

will have to make the decision before completing all its accession 

negotiations. 



Many in former Soviet Lithuania have been reluctant to shut Ignalina, 

which was built in the 1980s on Moscow's orders, as the country is 

heavily dependent on nuclear power for its energy needs. 

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Newly created material defies laws of physics

  

WASHINGTON, April 5 (Reuters) - Experiments on a newly created 

composite material have shown that it bends microwaves passing 

through it in a direction that seems to defy the laws of physics, 

scientists said on Thursday, in a discovery that could help in making 

more advanced lenses and antennas. 



The composite, made of fiberglass and copper, caused microwaves shot 

through it to bend in an opposite direction than the laws of physics 

predict, making it the first material to have a "negative index of 

refraction," physicists said in a study appearing in the journal 

Science. 



Electromagnetic radiation -- such as light and microwaves -- passing 

through ordinary materials is deflected in the same direction, giving 

those materials a "positive index of refraction," they said. An 

example is the way light bends when it passes from air to water. 



The composite could be useful in developing better antennas and other 

technology for the cellular communications industry, said physicist 

Sheldon Schultz, who created the material along with colleagues David 

Smith and Richard Shelby at the University of California at San 

Diego. 



Although the composite cannot focus visible light, Schultz said he 

hopes that obstacle can be overcome in the future. 



Physicist John Pendry of London's Imperial College has said that a 

material with a "negative refraction" would make possible the 

construction of a lens capable of focusing light to limits not 

currently achievable. 







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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:24:04 -0400

From: Susan Gawarecki <loc@ICX.NET>

Subject: Irresponsible weapons - Depleted uranium arms very harmful



This from http://www.michigandaily.com/articles.php?uniqid=20010405e02



This would be a good opportunity for a degreed rad expert to set the

record straight with a letter to the editor:



Irresponsible weapons - Depleted uranium arms very harmful 

(unsigned editorial)



War is hell, and in this particular hell the goal is to kill the enemy.

However in modern warfare every effort should be taken to minimize

“collateral damage.” A specific case of this is before the United States

military establishment right now. 



Since the Gulf War the U.S. military has employed depleted Uranium

munitions. At first glance these appear to be “superior” armaments.

Cheap and effective, their density and self-sharpening properties make

them appear to be the “perfect” weapon. However depleted uranium strikes

the enemy not once, but twice. Uranium, like most heavy metals, is

terribly toxic. The military’s zealous overkills in Iraq, the Balkans,

and even Puerto Rico have been littered with highly toxic depleted

uranium. An informational presentation will be taking place today in

room 1040 of the Dana Building at 7:30 p.m.  While many of the alleged

dangers of depleted uranium remain in contention, education is always

helpful. 



While the radiological dangers of depleted uranium are less than natural

uranium they still remain a concern, and may possibly be linked to Gulf

War Syndrome. Depleted uranium remains as toxic as mercury, yet the U.S.

military has relentlessly shelled the hills of Kosovo and the

countryside of Iraq with this substance. As much as a two-thirds

increase in the cancer rate among Iraqis may be due to the use of

depleted uranium in the Gulf War. Even if, as the Defense Department

claims, depleted uranium offers insignificant radiological threat its

chemical toxicity remains. 



While uranium evokes fears of radiation depleted uranium is more

dangerous in terms of chemical toxicity. The potential nuclear threat of

depleted uranium is dwarfed by the chemical threat. But a chemical

analysis of depleted uranium turns up a shocking reality. If depleted

uranium were administered to an individual with a teaspoon, its chemical

toxicity would kill more people than it could as a low grade nuclear

bomb. 



The dangers inherent to depleted uranium: Kidney damage, liver failure,

etc. are significant enough to civilian populations that this hazardous

material should be restricted if not outright banned. As the U.S. enjoys

a military superiority of immense magnitude these munitions are not

necessary and serve only as cost effective tank killers. The toll they

take in human life clearly warrants both more research into the

long-term effects of depleted uranium exposure and a moratorium on their

use and manufacture. Rather than risk the lives of civilian children,

military service personal and unknown environmental problems the Defense

Department should take responsibility and take measures to avoid the

“collateral damage” inherent to depleted uranium. 

- -- 

.....................................................

Susan L. Gawarecki, Ph.D., Executive Director

Oak Ridge Reservation Local Oversight Committee

                       -----                       

A schedule of meetings on DOE issues is posted on our Web site

http://www.local-oversight.org/meetings.html - E-mail loc@icx.net

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:39:55 -0400 (EDT)

From: William Prestwich <prestwic@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>

Subject: Re: Radon Web Site



Dear Phil,

	It seems obvious that the author is using fission and spontaneous

fission as a synonym for any type of decay. Nevertheless, it is my

understanding that the major source of heat keeping the earth's core

molten arises from radioactive decay-primarily 40K. So at least some of

the message, if somewhat garbled, does have a scientific basis.

Bill Prestwich

mcmaster.ca 





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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:34:58 -0400

From: Susan Gawarecki <loc@ICX.NET>

Subject: Re: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut



I was able to track down the source of this information.  The

Competitive Enterprise Institute (a conservative think tank) has

released a report authored by Robert Nelson titled "From Waste to

Wilderness: Maintaining Biodiversity on Nuclear-Bomb-Building Sites"

dated April 2001.  It's available at

http://www.cei.org/PDFs/waste_to_wilderness.pdf



I've quickly skimmed it and have yet to formulate an opinion.  Some

arguments and proposals look realistic, others not so.  I was extremely

surprised to see myself quoted (accurately) on pages 7-8, though

obviously out of the original context (the source doesn't seem to be

referenced), which was to complain that funding decisions for cleanup

are made to satisfy squeaky wheels, not by realistic evaluation of which

communities are most at-risk from DOE contamination.



The CEI press release, available at:

http://www.cei.org/PRReader.asp?ID=1412   reads:



Federal Government Should Abandon Current Nuclear Cleanup Program 



Environmental Expert Proposes Turning ‘Waste’ Sites into ‘Wilderness’

Areas



Washington, DC, March 20, 2001—The federal government spends around $6

billion a year to clean up Department of Energy nuclear sites from World

War II and the Cold War, but a Senior Fellow in Environmental Studies at

the Competitive Enterprise Institute says the program wastes taxpayers’

money and has the potential to hurt the environment.

               

In his newly released research paper From Waste to Wilderness:

Maintaining Biodiversity on Nuclear-Bomb-Building Sites, Dr. Robert

Nelson is proposing a new approach that would successfully convert these

waste sites into ecologically sound wilderness areas and save billions

of tax dollars at the same time. For more than fifty years, the

government has restricted access to nuclear weapons sites because of

public safety and health concerns, and now many of those areas have

become places where endangered species and other wildlife and plants are

thriving. 

               

“The current government attempts to clean up these areas overlook the

environmental value of their rare ecologies. It is time for a new form

of stewardship strategy, to take the necessary steps to protect

Americans from any actual threats posed by radioactive waste, but also

to set as a policy priority the conservation of these DOE sites for

their rich ecological diversity,” said Dr. Nelson.

               

Spending billions of dollars on environmental cleanup is not necessarily

good for the environment, argues Dr. Nelson, and he points to the Exxon

Valdez case as an example. After the oil tanker spilled more than 10

million gallons of crude oil into Alaska’s Prince William Sound in 1989,

Exxon launched a massive cleanup that cost about $2 billion. But the

process, which involved the spraying of intense jets of hot water and

oil detergents, ended up doing significant damage to the shoreline

ecology. Since then, many analysts have agreed it would have been better

to leave nature to do the job alone. 

               

To avoid situations like that, Dr. Nelson suggests a new “win-win”

approach for the cleanup of nuclear waste sites that includes:

recognizing the high ecological value of these sites, minimizing

actual risk to offsite human population, recognizing that long-term

cleanup requires technological advance, and continuing stewardship of

DOE sites to conserve ecological value and protect public health.



END QUOTE

- -- 

.....................................................

Susan L. Gawarecki, Ph.D., Executive Director

Oak Ridge Reservation Local Oversight Committee

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A schedule of meetings on DOE issues is posted on our Web site

http://www.local-oversight.org/meetings.html - E-mail loc@icx.net

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:32:42 -0700

From: "Sandy Perle" <sandyfl@EARTHLINK.NET>

Subject: Federal Appeals Court Dismisses Ward Valley Damages Suit



Index:



Federal Appeals Court Dismisses Ward Valley Damages Suit

PG&E unit bankruptcy is third-largest

==========================================



American Ecology Announces Federal Appeals Court Dismisses Ward 

Valley Damages Suit

  

BOISE, Idaho--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 6, 2001-- 



American Ecology Reaffirms Commitment to Seek Recovery of 

Damages from State of California in Pending State Court Litigation 



Jack K. Lemley, Chairman, President and CEO of American Ecology 

Corporation (Nasdaq:ECOL), today announced that a lawsuit filed by 

subsidiary US Ecology, Inc. to recover damages from the federal 

government for its failure to complete the land transfer for the Ward 

Valley low-level radioactive waste ("LLRW") disposal project had been 

dismissed on appeal. 



The ruling, issued on March 30, 2001 by the U.S. Court of Appeals for 

the Federal Circuit, held that sufficient evidence was not presented 

to establish that the federal government intended for any third party 

- -- such as US Ecology -- to have rights under an alleged contract 

between the federal government and the State of California to 

purchase the Ward Valley site. The Court did not rule on the issues 

of contract formation or US Ecology's standing to appeal. 



"While we are disappointed in the ruling, American Ecology believes 

its case against the State of California remains strong," Lemley 

commented. "US Ecology intends to vigorously pursue completion of the 

land acquisition by California or recovery of monetary damages in 

State Court," Lemley added. 



In May 2000, US Ecology filed suit against the State of California in 

Superior Court for the County of San Diego seeking to compel the 

State to resume efforts to acquire the Ward Valley site. This pending 

suit also seeks recovery of costs incurred, interest, lost profits 

and certain legal expenses exceeding $162 million. 



In October, 2000, California Superior Court Judge S. Charles 

Wickersham issued an Order granting California's motion to dismiss 

the case. US Ecology appealed that ruling, and briefing is now 

underway. Oral argument has not been set. "The State of California 

still has a contractual obligation to US Ecology and nothing in the 

recent federal court ruling changes that," Lemley concluded. 



American Ecology Corporation, through its subsidiaries, provides a 

variety of radioactive, PCB, hazardous and non-hazardous waste 

services to commercial and government customers throughout the United 

States, such as nuclear power plants, medical and academic 

institutions and petro-chemical facilities. The company provides 

scientific solutions that protect people and the environment. 

Headquartered in Boise, Idaho, the Company is the oldest radioactive 

and hazardous waste services Company in the United States. 

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PG&E unit bankruptcy is third-largest

Utility stands behind Texaco, Financial Corp. 

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) - When Pacific Gas & Electric on Friday sought 

Chapter 11 protection from its creditors, the electric utility took 

an infamous place in history.

Its bankruptcy filing - listing $24.18 billion of assets - ranks the 

utility third on the list of the largest U.S. bankruptcies, according 

to Bankruptcydata.com. Ahead of Pacific Gas & Electric, which is a 

subsidiary of PG&E Corp. 

({HYPERLINK "/tools/quotes/intChart.asp?siteid=aolpf&symb=PCG"}PCG) , 

are Texaco 

({HYPERLINK "/tools/quotes/intChart.asp?siteid=aolpf&symb=TX"}TX) , 

which filed in 1987 with $35.9 billion of assets, and Financial Corp. 

of America, which filed in 1988 with $33.9 billion of assets. 

MCorp is fourth on the list, listing $20.2 billion of assets when it 

filed in 1989, and in fifth place - First Executive Corp., which 

filed in 1991 with assets of $15.2 billion of assets.

According to Susan Abbott, a managing director at Moody's Investors 

Service, there have been only two other utility bankruptcies - Public 

Service of New Hampshire and El Paso Electric Co. Both were small 

companies and can't compare to Pacific Gas & Electric, she noted.

Pacific Gas & Electric gave up on solvency, in part because it has 

almost $9 billion worth of debt and saw no relief in sight from the 

state of California. Although California Gov. Gray Davis signed a 

mandate Thursday night to raise the state's electricity rates, Abbott 

pointed out that the utility, in its conference call, said that there 

has been much talk but very little action taken by the state.

"And that's what brought them to the place they are now," she said. 

"It appeared there were a couple of elements that PG&E couldn't live 

with: there was virtually no progress being made on their case with 

the governor's office, they are still exposed to obligations related 

to net short positions, and the rate increase signed by Davis last 

night doesn't do anything to help the situation."

That leaves Pacific Gas & Electric peer Southern California Edison 

flapping in the wind. Abbott said it's a toss-up as to whether 

SoCalEd, a division of Edison International 

({HYPERLINK "/tools/quotes/intChart.asp?siteid=aolpf&symb=EIX"}EIX) , 

will follow Pacific Gas & Electric's lead. But they're in the very 

same boat, she said.

"They have continuing obligations for net short positions, the 

structure of the market continues to be a mess, and there's no relief 

for the debt they've taken on," Abbott said.

Although SoCalEd would likely file for bankruptcy and not its parent, 

Edison has about $37.9 billion worth of assets as of Sept. 30, 2000, 

according to data from Hoover's.



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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:16:35 EDT

From: RuthWeiner@AOL.COM

Subject: Re: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut



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As at least one respondent pointed out, the sites are currently ecological 

preserves, precisely because human access is limited.  Hanford's NERP 

(National Environmental Research Park) is in fact a rather unique ecology 

since it is a temperate zone desert.  It's called the Arid Lands Ecology 

(ALE) site, and was inaugurated in 1976.



I might also point out that in 1991 or 1992, when I was on a NAS risk 

prioritization panel, Curt Travis at Oak Ridge used a program called MEPAS to 

identify the most hazardous sites in the DOE complex, and there were really 

only a few places that posed any significant risk.  However, this made most 

of the citizen activists mad, because in any prioritization some sites end up 

high on the list and others , lower.  At their behest, Hazel O'Leary 

eliminated the prioritization idea (and the NAS panel) and instituted the 

Citizens' Advisory Boards, following some meeting at the Keystone conference 

center in Colorado that resulted in the so-called "Keystone Accords" that 

gave "stakeholders" a voice in what to clean up and how to do it.  And here 

we are!



Ruth Weiner, Ph. D.

ruthweiner@aol.com



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2><B>As at least one respondent pointed out, the sites are currently ecological 

<BR>preserves, precisely because human access is limited. &nbsp;Hanford's NERP 

<BR>(National Environmental Research Park) is in fact a rather unique ecology 

<BR>since it is a temperate zone desert. &nbsp;It's called the Arid Lands Ecology 

<BR>(ALE) site, and was inaugurated in 1976.

<BR>

<BR>I might also point out that in 1991 or 1992, when I was on a NAS risk 

<BR>prioritization panel, Curt Travis at Oak Ridge used a program called MEPAS to 

<BR>identify the most hazardous sites in the DOE complex, and there were really 

<BR>only a few places that posed any significant risk. &nbsp;However, this made most 

<BR>of the citizen activists mad, because in any prioritization some sites end up 

<BR>high on the list and others , lower. &nbsp;At their behest, Hazel O'Leary 

<BR>eliminated the prioritization idea (and the NAS panel) and instituted the 

<BR>Citizens' Advisory Boards, following some meeting at the Keystone conference 

<BR>center in Colorado that resulted in the so-called "Keystone Accords" that 

<BR>gave "stakeholders" a voice in what to clean up and how to do it. &nbsp;And here 

<BR>we are!

<BR>

<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#008000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Ruth Weiner, Ph. D.

<BR>ruthweiner@aol.com</B></FONT></HTML>



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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:20:02 EDT

From: RadSafeInst@CS.COM

Subject: Re: Radon Web Site



In a message dated 04/06/2001 11:48:53 AM Central Daylight Time, 

laradcon@HOTMAIL.COM writes:



<< radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

  >>

Wow! Fission heating of the earth's core----to preserve life! Welcome back, 

Jules Verne. I agree with Phil: we shouldn't be so hard on a concrete 

salesman!                     Ed Battle

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:34:03 EDT

From: RadSafeInst@CS.COM

Subject: Depleted Uranium (Again)



I picture Dr. Gawarecki sitting at her typewriter foaming at the mouth with 

indignation that we (U.S Military) would dare use a weapon that is harmful to 

people. Here are a few interesting quotes: "...serve only as cost effective 

tank killers. The toll they

take in human life clearly warrants both more research into the long-term 

effects of depleted uranium exposure and a moratorium on their use and 

manufacture" Cost effective tank killers sound pretty useful to me: 

especially on a modern battllefield. Also, note that we impose a moratorium, 

then we do the research to see if it's justified. The reference to "the toll 

they take in human life" makes research unnecessary, doesn't it. Oh good 

grief, Charlie Brown, I can't read anymore !!!!!!!!               Ed Battle

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:39:36 -0500

From: "Michael Stabin" <michael.g.stabin@VANDERBILT.EDU>

Subject: two purposes



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try again!



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Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:31:56 +0200

From: Harald Weiss <weiss@KI.COMCITY.DE>

Subject: Re: (Another question )RE: Smear Collection Efficiency



Emil Murat schrieb:

> 

> The question:

> 

> Is a loose contamination, is a smearable?

> 

> 1.1 I had an impression that smear refers to

> "smearable"

> contamination i.e. what can get onto smear.

> So it is irrelevant if all of it gets onto smear or

> only 10% of it.

> 

AFAIK, the result of the smear test has to be corrected with the

"smearing efficiency" in order to find the *removable* (not smearable)

contamination. A value of 10 % is used, if the efficiency is not known.

Normally this value is used. In the few cases I saw, where the

efficiency was measured, it amounted to up to 70 % on smoothly painted

surfaces.



Greetings, 

Harald



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Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

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Vanderbilt University

1161 21st Avenue South

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Phone (615) 322-3190

Fax   (615) 322-3764

e-mail  michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu



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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:04:06 -0700

From: "Sandy O'Brien" <sobrien@UCSD.EDU>

Subject: URGENT request for Mn-54 for seafloor sciesmic event study!



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Hello all,



A sea-floor, volcanic, seismic event was recently detected in the Gorda 

Ridge area along the Pacific Northwest.  A pre-planned "Event and Rapid 

Response" effort is presently underway to study this sea-floor 

phenomenon.  As part of this response effort, a Scripps Institution of 

Oceanography research vessel, New Horizon, is transiting to the study 

site.  The vessel will be the science platform for an array of studies 

coordinated and carried out by University of Hawaii and NOAA scientists.



The Principal Investigator from the University of Hawaii, Dr. Jim Cowen, is 

in urgent need of Mn-54 for tracer studies at the event site.  Dr. Cowen 

had pre-arranged for the vendor to drop-ship his Mn-54 stock to the ship's 

loading location upon the occurrence of such a detectable seismic 

event.  However, now that an event has occurred, he finds that the vendor 

cannot obtain the Mn-54 in time to meet the immediate response need.



Dr. Cowen URGENTLY needs the following:

Mn-54 as manganese chloride, 100-200 microCuries, high specific activity 

and high purity.

An aqueous solution is best.  The solution need not be sterile but should 

be clean.  Dry powder form may work as well.  Dr. Cowen will pay all 

shipping costs and will replace the Mn-54 stock.



The material must be in Eureka, CA  (Northern California) Tuesday morning 

by 1000, or so, for loading onto the vessel.  We could work the transport 

thru several means but a combination of commercial airline and courier 

appears the most promising, especially in light of the tight schedule 

deadline.  The material could be flown into San Francisco International 

Airport and picked up by a courier company for routing to the ship.  (I 

already have a courier company lined up that works 24 hours.)   I will 

coordinate transport logistics.



The material will be used under the University of California, San Diego 

licenses.  We are properly licensed for use of radioactive materials for 

this type of endeavor.  The "Event and Rapid Response" parameters were 

pre-arranged by agreement with the NRC, the University of Hawaii, and the 

University of California, San Diego.  For questions regarding licensing, 

please contact me at the numbers below.



If someone has Mn--54 that they can spare for the time being, please 

respond by email to

Dr. Cowen at jcowen@soest.hawaii.edu AND to me at sobrien@ucsd.edu, or 

telephone me at the numbers below.  Email will reach Dr. Cowen until  0800 

Hawaii time.  After that time, I will relay the information to him.



I know that this is short notice but we are giving it a try.  This is an 

unusual study opportunity and we'd like to maximize the research 

endeavor.  This is a good chance to be a hero and assist with this unusual 

science effort.



Information on the Gorda Ridge seismic event can be viewed at

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/seismicity/nepac/gordaridge01.html



(Sorry for the double posting for those on both RADSAFE and AMRSO lists.)



Thank you in advance,



Sandy O'Brien, HP

Scripps Institution of Oceanography,

University of California, San Diego-0210

9500 Gilman Drive

La Jolla, CA  92093-0210

phone:  858-534-6103

fax:      858-534-5306

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Hello all,<br>

<br>

A sea-floor, volcanic, seismic event was recently detected in the Gorda

Ridge area along the Pacific Northwest.&nbsp; A pre-planned &quot;Event

and Rapid Response&quot; effort is presently underway to study this

sea-floor phenomenon.&nbsp; As part of this response effort, a Scripps

Institution of Oceanography research vessel, <i>New Horizon</i>, is

transiting to the study site.&nbsp; The vessel will be the science

platform for an array of studies coordinated and carried out by

University of Hawaii and NOAA scientists. <br>

<br>

The Principal Investigator from the University of Hawaii, Dr. Jim Cowen,

is in urgent need of Mn-54 for tracer studies at the event site.&nbsp;

Dr. Cowen had pre-arranged for the vendor to drop-ship his Mn-54 stock to

the ship's loading location upon the occurrence of such a detectable

seismic event.&nbsp; However, now that an event has occurred, he finds

that the vendor cannot obtain the Mn-54 in time to meet the immediate

response need.&nbsp; &nbsp; <br>

<br>

Dr. Cowen <b>URGENTLY</b> needs the following:<br>

Mn-54 as manganese chloride, 100-200 microCuries, high specific activity

and high purity.<br>

An aqueous solution is best.&nbsp; The solution need not be sterile but

should be clean.&nbsp; Dry powder form may work as well.&nbsp; Dr. Cowen

will pay all shipping costs and will replace the Mn-54 stock.<br>

<br>

The material must be in Eureka, CA&nbsp; (Northern California) Tuesday

morning by 1000, or so, for loading onto the vessel.&nbsp; We could work

the transport thru several means but a combination of commercial airline

and courier appears the most promising, especially in light of the tight

schedule deadline.&nbsp; The material could be flown into San Francisco

International Airport and picked up by a courier company for routing to

the ship.&nbsp; (I already have a courier company lined up that works 24

hours.)&nbsp;&nbsp; I will coordinate transport logistics. <br>

<br>

The material will be used under the University of California, San Diego

licenses.&nbsp; We are properly licensed for use of radioactive materials

for this type of endeavor.&nbsp; The &quot;Event and Rapid Response&quot;

parameters were pre-arranged by agreement with the NRC, the University of

Hawaii, and the University of California, San Diego.&nbsp; For questions

regarding licensing, please contact me at the numbers below.<br>

<br>

If someone has Mn--54 that they can spare for the time being, please

respond by email to<br>

Dr. Cowen at jcowen@soest.hawaii.edu <b>AND</b> to me at

sobrien@ucsd.edu, or telephone me at the numbers below.&nbsp; Email will

reach Dr. Cowen until&nbsp; 0800 Hawaii time.&nbsp; After that time, I

will relay the information to him.&nbsp; <br>

<br>

I know that this is short notice but we are giving it a try.&nbsp; This

is an unusual study opportunity and we'd like to maximize the research

endeavor.&nbsp; This is a good chance to be a hero and assist with this

unusual science effort.&nbsp; <br>

<br>

Information on the Gorda Ridge seismic event can be viewed at&nbsp; 

<br>

<a href="http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/seismicity/nepac/gordaridge01.html"; eudora="autourl">http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/seismicity/nepac/gordaridge01.</a><a href="http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/seismicity/nepac/gordaridge01.html"; eudora="autourl">html<br>

<br>

</a>(Sorry for the double posting for those on both RADSAFE and AMRSO

lists.)<br>

<br>

Thank you in advance,<br>

<br>

Sandy O'Brien, HP<br>

Scripps Institution of Oceanography, <br>

University of California, San Diego-0210<br>

9500 Gilman Drive<br>

La Jolla, CA&nbsp; 92093-0210<br>

phone:&nbsp; 858-534-6103<br>

fax: <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&nbsp; 858-534-5306<br>

email:&nbsp; sobrien@ucsd.edu<br>

<br>

<br>

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:29:47 -0400 

From: "Stokes, James" <StokesJ@TTNUS.COM>

Subject: RE: (Another question )RE: Smear Collection Efficiency



 I was trained in doing surveys by some of the Defense Programs personnel

that developed and did contamination surveys.  They stated that the

philosophy behind the smear, was to determine how much contamination could

be picked up through incidental contact with contaminated material;  not to

determine how much was on the surface, but how much could be transfered by

contact with that surface.



I realized that codifying saomething into a regulation, can change all of

that.  I was just wantd to provide the historical perspective relative to

intent of the survey.



Jim Stokes RRpt



- -----Original Message-----

From: Harald Weiss

To: radsafe

Sent: 4/6/01 5:31 PM

Subject: Re: (Another question )RE: Smear Collection Efficiency



Emil Murat schrieb:

> 

> The question:

> 

> Is a loose contamination, is a smearable?

> 

> 1.1 I had an impression that smear refers to

> "smearable"

> contamination i.e. what can get onto smear.

> So it is irrelevant if all of it gets onto smear or

> only 10% of it.

> 

AFAIK, the result of the smear test has to be corrected with the

"smearing efficiency" in order to find the *removable* (not smearable)

contamination. A value of 10 % is used, if the efficiency is not known.

Normally this value is used. In the few cases I saw, where the

efficiency was measured, it amounted to up to 70 % on smoothly painted

surfaces.



Greetings, 

Harald



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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:54:24 -0400 

From: "Stokes, James" <StokesJ@TTNUS.COM>

Subject: RE: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut



 

I would like to put this issue in my own personal perspective.  The U.S DOE

Defense Programs complex consists of about 2000 square miles of

radioactively and chemically contaminated lands.  Does anyone belive that

there are enough tax dollars in The United Staes of America, to clean al of

these lands to their original pristine condition?  Do the calculations, and

I will be willing to bet against it.



Therefore, at some point, there will have to be a decision, that no more

clean up will happen.  I am not saying that this is the time for that.  I am

simply stating, pragmatically, that that time WILL come.



Therefore, we most diligantly, and RESPONSIBLY spend the money while it is

available, to clean up as much as we can.  Because the "wallet" for cleanup

is not bottomless.  Remember that the Weldon Springs, MO sight sat idle for

fifteen years, before any money was appropriated for its cleanup.



Many do not know that it was the sister facility of the Fernald, OH site.

Ask yourself why the Fernald sight received billions for its cleanup, when

Weldon Springs only received millions.  Answer, politics, not technical

justification.  Fernald is 1150 acres of uranium contamination.  Hanford is

570 sq miles, INEEL is 890 SQ. miles,  and Savannah River Site is about 270

sq. miles.  These sites have transuranic contamiation.  Just usinf a simple

linear extrapolation,  the U.S. budget could not handle a cleanup to

pristine conditions in our lifetime.



The decisions that will have to be made will be emotional, negotiations

protracted, and in the end, will satisfy noone.  But all of us must look at

what CAN be achieved, and do our best to ensure that the most that can be

done, will be.  But there will be a point at which the cleanup will have to

end, because there just simply is just not enough money to do it all.



These are my opinions alne, and probably conflict with many others who

naively believe that we can have it all.

- -----Original Message-----

From: RuthWeiner@AOL.COM

To: loc@ICX.NET; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Sent: 4/6/01 6:16 PM

Subject: Re: DOE cleanup to fund tax cut



As at least one respondent pointed out, the sites are currently

ecological 

preserves, precisely because human access is limited.  Hanford's NERP 

(National Environmental Research Park) is in fact a rather unique

ecology 

since it is a temperate zone desert.  It's called the Arid Lands Ecology



(ALE) site, and was inaugurated in 1976. 



I might also point out that in 1991 or 1992, when I was on a NAS risk 

prioritization panel, Curt Travis at Oak Ridge used a program called

MEPAS to 

identify the most hazardous sites in the DOE complex, and there were

really 

only a few places that posed any significant risk.  However, this made

most 

of the citizen activists mad, because in any prioritization some sites

end up 

high on the list and others , lower.  At their behest, Hazel O'Leary 

eliminated the prioritization idea (and the NAS panel) and instituted

the 

Citizens' Advisory Boards, following some meeting at the Keystone

conference 

center in Colorado that resulted in the so-called "Keystone Accords"

that 

gave "stakeholders" a voice in what to clean up and how to do it.  And

here 

we are! 



Ruth Weiner, Ph. D. 

ruthweiner@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 16:07:45 -0400

From: Pxrfcorp <tom@XRFCORP.COM>

Subject: Re: Radon Web Site



is this the cause of spontainious human combustion? <G>

Tom



William Prestwich wrote:



> Gee, I don't think I said that. All I said (or meant to say) was that 238U

> does undergo fission, but the radon is not produced in that decay mode. 

> Bill

> 

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