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RE: Small Earth- Penetrating Nuclear Warhead - Lethal Side-Effect s



 

Jaroslav:



Your assessments are reasonbly accurate.  One can specifically design a

device to perform within the specific parameters of its design, and to

compare its performance to another weapon of dissimilar design is

inappropriate.



I realize that in the world of science, open exchange of information is a

necessary part of the peer input, brainstorming and review process.



However, the specific discussion of weapons design details is not something

that I would openly exchange over a non-secure electronic information

transfer technology.



My personal opinions of course.



Jim Stokes

-----Original Message-----

From: Franta, Jaroslav

To: Radsafe (E-mail)

Sent: 4/20/01 5:28 PM

Subject: RE: Small Earth- Penetrating Nuclear Warhead - Lethal Side-Effect s



Sandy Perle's April 16, 2001 10:18 AM nuclear news list posting included

the following (my comments, in blue, follow) :



Subject: Russia to press ahead with Iran nuclear plant



Index:



Russia to press ahead with Iran nuclear plant

France Moves Chemical Weapons to Nuclear Storage Site, AFP Says

Small Earth- Penetrating Nuclear Warhead - Lethal Side-Effects

Bush Energy Group Won't Discuss Deliberations, Wash Post Says

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Scientists: 'Clean' Nuclear Weapon Isn't; Small Earth- Penetrating

Nuclear Warhead Would Have Lethal Side-Effects

 

WASHINGTON, April 16 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Low-yield earth-penetrating

nuclear weapons, intended to threaten deep bunkers without killing

the surrounding population, would release dangerous fallout,

according to an analysis by the Federation of American Scientists.



Some nuclear weapons developers have advocated developing and testing

new small nuclear weapons as a way to destroy deeply buried bunkers

containing enemy leaders or biological weapons.  Delivered by a bomb

or missile that would strike the ground a high speed and penetrate

deeply before exploding, the weapon is intended to destroy the bunker

but leave nearby civilians unharmed because the earth over the

explosion would contain it.



But the study, performed by Princeton University physicist Robert

Nelson, finds this to be technologically impossible.  "No earth-

burrowing missile can penetrate deep enough into the earth to contain

an explosion with a nuclear yield even as small as 1 percent of the

Hiroshima weapon.  The explosion simply blows out a massive crater of

radioactive dirt, which rains down on the local region with

especially intense and deadly fallout," according to the study.



A 1-kiloton explosion, less than one tenth that of the Hiroshima

bomb, would need to be under 450 feet of earth to be fully contained.

 But the U.S. B61-11 deep-penetrating bomb only penetrates about 20

feet.  A tactical missile might possibly penetrate to 100 feet,

although it would be difficult for a nuclear warhead to function

after such an impact.



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COMMENT: where does that 1-kiloton figure come from ? ...if I recall

correctly, S. Glasstone's seminal book on the effects of nuclear weapons

includes references to bomb tests with yields much less than 1-kiloton.

Also, a number of weapons formerly in the US tactical arsenal - such as

the Davy Crockett jeep-launched A-bomb - had yields well below 1-kiloton

(i.e. whatever it took to do the prescribed task... possibly a hundred

tons-or-so equivalent).  Secondly, like the penetration of armoured

vehicles (tanks) by Depleted Uranium (DU) ammunitions, depth-penetration

of bombs in earth is undoubtedly facilitated by high-density uranium

metal.  Thirdly, it is no secret that depth-penetrating bombs actually

REQUIRE "such an impact" in order to function -- their "critical

assembly" is of the gun-barrel type, except that there is no chemical

explosive in the warhead to drive the mechanism - only the extremely

rapid deceleration on entry into the ground :  in principle, its the

simplest type of nuclear weapon imaginable. I would agree however, that

no CHEMICAL explosive weapon could probably survive such an impact

without detonating closer to the surface... a lot depends on the

details.



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If an underground explosion is not contained, it becomes very

"dirty", in that the earth above it is made radioactive and thrown

over a large area.  



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COMMENT: True -- but this does NOT happen if the weapon is designed

correctly...



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Thus, use of even a small earth-penetrating

warhead in a populated area would cause significant civilian

casualties, according to the study.

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COMMENT: Since when are chemical weapons depots built in "populated

areas" ??   [ the escaping chemical gas would probably be a worse threat

in the latter case..]



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Scientists who built the first atomic bomb founded the Federation of

American Scientists in 1945.  More than half of the current American

Nobel Laureates today serve on the FAS Board of Sponsors.



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COMMENT: OK -- but if you're against nuclear weapons, why not simply say

so, instead of making up these phoney arguments ?  ...the former is an

entirely different, mostly non-technical issue which may be debated

separately. Without going into any details (off-topic on this list),

off-hand I can think of a number of  issues that make such debates

non-trivial, including, for instance, the "what if" scenario of some

western nations or their allies - who have destroyed all their stocks of

chemical weapons - being attacked massively by the chemical weapons of

countries like Iraq. Commentators have often stated that chemical

weapons are the "poor-man's nuclear bomb." What choice do countries

which have renounced the use of chemical weapons have, to respond in

kind when attacked ? A horrific scenario no doubt, but would it not be

preferable in such circumstances to have the option of "low-yield

earth-penetrating

nuclear weapons, intended to threaten deep [chemical weapons storage]

bunkers without killing the surrounding population" ? I would personally

like to see the FAS geniuses address this question !



End of rant.



Jaro  



Personal opinions only 

* frantaj@aecl.ca 



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