Re: cemetery with Chernobyl victims?

[Maury Siskel <maury@WEBTEXAS.COM>]

Thanks very much, Oleg, for this important correction to my cavalier treatment

of the Russian debt. My understanding is that you are correct that the ultimate

beneficiary of a lot of this largess is Western banks. In effect, our banks loan

money to Russia, Mexico, Haiti, and so on with little care about the quality of

the loans - no need when the money is guaranteed by the federal govt. , IMF, or

possibly the World Bank - which translates to US taxpayers.

Thanks again for pointing this out - sometimes it is hard to be sufficiently

careful.

Maury Siskel    maury@webtexas.com

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Oleg Povetko wrote:



> Maury, saying that "cash is gone" is not technically correct. International

> financial institutions keep collecting billions of dollars in interest every

> year from Russia including payments on Soviet Union debt that other 14 newly

> independent countries do not repay. The money-laundering schemes transfered

> portions of those loans to the Western banks, so after all, it is a pretty

> good deal for the Western financial institutions.

>

> Over the coming six years Russia is to make US$85bn in foreign debt- service

> payments-around US$13bn-14bn per annum, except in 2003, when US$19bn in

> payments are due.

>

> "Russia repays further tranche of IMF debt

>

> BY SAPA-DPA,

>

> [Moscow, 23 February 2001] - The payment is a small part of the nearly $2

> billion that Moscow is due to repay the IMF this year. With Friday's payment

> reported by the Itar-Tass agency, which cited the Finance Ministry, Moscow

> has so far paid some $400 million of the sum.

>

> Russia, with debts to the IMF totalling about $12 billion, has not received

> any financial support from the IMF since 1999. The body cut off its support

> then, citing Moscow's economic policies, corruption allegations against

> Russian politicians and the war in the Caucasus region. "

>

> As CNN reported on February 5, 2001 at

> http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/02/05/russia.financial/

> "Russia's total foreign debt totals about $150 billion, with about $100

> billion inherited from the Soviet Union..."

>

> Oleg G Povetko

> povetko@hotmail.com

>

> >

> >

> > Phil, I believe Franz provided the answer. It may be helpful

> > to add, however,

> > there is a distinct money trail here. Russia and former

> > Soviet Union states

> > are attempting (with some success) to obtain funding for

> > various kinds of

> > nuclear remediation. Thus, if terrible health effects are

> > "sold", then the

> > West will send more money ....

> >

> > The same problem exists in the realm of global climate

> > change. The Kyoto

> > protocol contained provisions that developed nations would

> > send money to less

> > developed nations for remediation of CO2 discharges. There

> > were, however,  few

> > provisions to ensure that the funds would be expended for the

> > intended purpose

> > - kinda' like the cash "loaned" to Russia to assist in establishing a

> > democratic government. The cash is gone and so is a

> > democratic Russia. It's a

> > pretty neat game.

> >

> > For more on Chernobyl see:

> > http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/chernobyl.html

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Maury Siskel     maury@webtexas.com

> > ===============================  reply separator  ===========

> > Philip Egidi wrote:

> >

> > > RADSTERS

> > >

> > > One of Sandy's postings today caught my eye with respect to the

> > > discussion about how many people died as a result of the Chernobyl

> > > accident:

> > >

> > > snip

> > > >

> > > Russia, also badly affected by the disaster, marked the day with a

> > > ceremony at a cemetery outside Moscow where thousands of Chernobyl

> > > victims and "liquidators" are buried.

> > > end of snip

> > >

> > > If this is the case, how can the claim be made that only x amount of

> >

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> >

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