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Re: Global Warming Again!
Thanks Maury!! I could not have said it better!
maury wrote:
>
> Paul, some your thoughts are outright frightening to me. Please stop and
> notice the extent to which your comments are thoroughly infiltrated with govt
> regulatory features. And then you want more govt intervention in order to
> control the untoward profits of energy, building, and transportation companies
> and, by the way, to obviously save the planet. And you would use the power to
> tax as the enforcer of your ideas of social engineering. I won't attempt any
> ultimate solutions here, but it is not difficult to recognize obvious
> regulatory excesses which are rampant within the executive and judicial
> branches of government. Do you really desire that much relief from your own
> responsibility and freedom to make daily choices in your life - do you
> sincerely believe that government appointees do it that much better for you? I
> might be duped into various unwise choices, but I want the opportunity to be
> duped or not rather than giving that power to government. Moreover, please
> note the term: unwise. Unwise is not a question of scientific fact; it is a
> value judgment requiring at least consideration of for whom and for what. I
> hope you might see the puny efforts of mankind in a better perspective
> compared, for example, with the simple results of an occasional full-blown
> volcano here and there. We often presume awesome capabilities for ourselves.
> Best wishes,
> Maury Siskel maury@webtexas.com
> -----------------------
> Preserve your right to arm bears.
> ================================
> Paul William Shafer wrote:
>
> > I agree with your "degree per decade" information from
> > what I have read. Can you imagine what it might be if
> > all of the nuclear power plants were replaced by coal
> > or natural gas fired plants? That is exactly what
> > many utilities and NG suppliers are hoping for by 2025
> > since there is much less regulatory hassle in
> > construction and operation of NG fired inefficient
> > "jet engine-type" mini-turbine farms. The NG suppliers
> > want to burn NG during the summer for AC, rather than
> > store it for winter heating, since they realize much
> > greater profits.
> >
> > In addition, even though the federal government has a
> > 20 mpg requirement for light trucks and SUVs, you and
> > I both know that large V-8 powered SUVs only get 6-10
> > mpg while "parked" on expressways with one or two
> > people in them every day on the comutes in and out of
> > large metro areas. The oil companies and car companies
> > obviously love these vehicles and have duped people
> > into believing they are safer. The oil companies and
> > car companies make most of their profits from these
> > vehicles and not from small fuel efficient vehicles.
> > What is the contribution to Global Warming from these
> > vehicles concentrated on "moving parking lots" in big
> > cities?
> >
> > How about 5000+ sq. ft. new homes which have one or
> > two people in them in terms of NG and electricity
> > usage? Obviously, home builders and banks do not want
> > modern 2500 sq. ft. homes like the ones built in the
> > 1960s since they realize smaller profit margins.
> >
> > If the V-8/V-10 powered SUVs and light trucks were
> > luxury taxed at 10-15% of list price, if a $4000 tax
> > credit were given to home owners to reduce energy
> > usage, if the price of a gallon of gasoline reached
> > $3.50 per gallon by what ever means, if regulatory
> > controls on nuclear power were reduced etc. etc.
> > perhaps we help could curb "Global Warming." These
> > things do not appear likely within the next twenty
> > years.
> >
> > "Bigger and more inefficient is better in a throw-away
> > society." That is what keeps the profits coming. I
> > believe it is more of a macro-economic issue than a
> > political one.
> >
> > Just some comments.
> >
> > Paul Shafer
> > --- Michael McNaughton <mcnaught@LANL.GOV> wrote:
> > > At 04:11 PM 7/18/01 -0700, Jerry Cohen wrote:
> > > >beginning some 4,000 years ago and running until
> > > the birth of Christ,
> > > >temperatures averaged between 1.5 and 3 degrees
> > > Celsius higher than they
> > > >do today.
> > >
> > > An important detail that has been omitted is: the
> > > rate of change. One
> > > degree change per thousand years has been observed
> > > before. The present data
> > > tentatively indicate about a degree per decade,
> > > which is about 2 orders of
> > > magnitude larger than before.
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike McNaughton
> > > Los Alamos National Lab.
> > > email: mcnaught@LANL.gov or mcnaughton@LANL.gov
> > > phone: (505)667-6130
> > >
> > >
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