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RE: Dateline NBC TMI story - A different evaluation



Franz and Ted,

I am aware the "China Syndrome" was a popular, non-technical term for the

failure of the containment vessel during a partial or complete core

meltdown.  I am just curious as to if the scenario was actually consider and

evaluated.  As Sandy Perle has mentioned, drills are often conducted that

involve events that are unrealistic.  I think these are done to ensure that

you exercise all of your resources, and can demonstrate response to less

sever accidents.



I do not know a lot of nuclear engineers, so again I ask if the idea of a

core meltdown that lead to a failure of the containment vessel and

containment building was considered follow a loss of coolant, AND failure of

the emergency core cooling system.  (Gee, that sounds like what happened at

TMI when the control room turned off the emergency fuel pumps.)



As a final thought, does anyone remember the news that during the Chernobyl

accident, emergency teams tunneled under the reactor to pump in CO2 to cool

off the core and prevent its penetration into the aqua filter under the

plant?  And, yes, I know that the Chernobyl was a different design without

the pressure vessel and containment building that are common for Western and

light water reactors.  If this is true, then the possibility of an excursion

into the ground water is a realistic scenario, if unlikely in the current

designs.



-- John 



John Jacobus, MS

Certified Health Physicist 

3050 Traymore Lane

Bowie, MD  20715-2024



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-----Original Message-----

From: Franz Schoenhofer [mailto:franz.schoenhofer@chello.at]

Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:36 AM

To: Ted Rockwell; Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); Michael Stabin;

radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: Re: Dateline NBC TMI story - A different evaluation



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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: Ted Rockwell <tedrock@CPCUG.ORG>

An: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>; Michael Stabin

<michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu>; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

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Datum: Freitag, 17. August 2001 04:38

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. . .

>

>I don't know any serious engineer who believed it.  In fact, it was never

>really defined in technical terms.  It just meant that the molten core

might

>penetrate the vessel and find itself facing several feet of concrete.  One

>could postulate (guess) that this might lead to a crack in the containment

>and some minor amount of fps could get into the ground (which is a pretty

>good filter--see Oklo).

>

>I don't think anyone was seriously concerned over the impact on Beijing.



You describe, what really could happen, but the words "China Syndrome" were

intended to describe, that the molten core would sustain criticallity and

make its way all the way through earth and appear finally at the surface at

the other side of the globe (China). This "China Syndrome" might have been

invented by a cynical engineer, who joked, but I remember from the time of

TMI that there were quite a few people who took it serious. BTW, I haven't

heard it since at least 20 years. BTW(2): The film was recently broadcast on

Austrian TV, which obviously was connected to the ridiculous attitude

towards the Czech power plant at Temelin.



Franz