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RE: Norm's final words on dead fish



As to the legionaire's issue:The desease got it's name from an American Legion Post down wind from a cooling tower which bred the bacteria which causes the desease.Several of those whom frequented the post contracted the desease and died , hence the name.



-----Original Message-----

From: Norman Cohen [mailto:ncohen12@HOME.COM]

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:13 PM

To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: Norm's final words on dead fish





Hi all,

A couple of last points.

(1) I found in my email files the copy of the statement of the Delaware

Riverkeeper to the NJ DEP on the renewal of Salem's permit. Its 371K, a

Word file, and contains much of the information I've talked about, with

references. If youwant it, pls email me offlist.



(2) I agree that other types plants and facilities use water (I might be

anti-nuke, doesn't mean I'm dumb). That was why the Congress passed the

Clean Water Act, sections 316(a) and (b). 316(b) says that all

facilities must use "the best technology available to minimize adverse

impacts to the environment". All nukes built after 1972, when the CWA

passed, use cooling towers. Hope Creek, for example is one. Salem 1/2

were built before the CWA.

  (2a) Part of the concern is the volume of water used by the intake

system. Salem Units 1 and 2 together use 3.024 BILLION gallons of water

EACH DAY to cool the plants. In one year, water equal to the entire

volume of the Delaware Bay is used in cooling Salem 1/2.  I suggest that

other examples of cooling water use many have mentioned, do not use such

tremendous volumes of water.



(3) Thermal shock; There is a difference of about 10 degrees F between

intake and exhaust water. This is high enough to kill marine life. No

one, including PSEG, argues this.



(4) Save the Plankton!  I was not talking about plankton, but about

other small critters that fit thru the screens.



(5) Screens and buckets, etc: Yes, the screens keep fish from being

cooked. But fish also die from being smashed onto the screens. Some

nukes kill sea turtles and other endangered species. See the NIRS

report.



(6) Expertise: I agree that you all know your facts about radiation, and

know way more than I do. But I would argue that perhaps you all don't

know everything about other environmental issues. So perhaps, in this

one case, I might have more information and knowledge than some of you.

I've lived with 316(b) issues for 3 years, as we prepared for the

renewal of Salem's permits. I've met with the EPA, with NJDEP, with

PSEG. While you all may think I'm talking thru my bald head on radiation

issues, since I don't have a science degree or nuclear work experience,

I hope you'll at least consider I do know what I'm talking about on the

fishkill/Clean Water Act issues.



(7) I do agree with Ruth (tho I'd put it nicer) that fishkills are not

the best issue to close a nuke plant on. What makes Salem 1/2 unique is

not just dead fish, but a constellation of issues and concerns. Finally,

groups that support making PSEG build cooling towers are not

anti-nuclear. If PSEG built the towers, groups like the Riverkeeper

would not oppsoe the continuing operation of the nukes.



(8) Someone mentioned Legionaires disease and cooling towers. I'd like

to hear more about that, as that is something I'm unaware of.



I'll answer replies off-list to avoid clogging up the works more than I

already have.



Peace

Norm





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