RE: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from other cancers

["Jim Muckerheide" <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>]

I'll address some direct statements that I missed. 



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	From: Rad health [mailto:healthrad@hotmail.com] 

	

	



	Jim,

	

	How can it be that even now, 15% of primary lung cancers arise in never

	smokers.

	

	15% of 160,000 = many more than essentially none

	

	Don Smith



	<EPA says 10s of thousands from air pollution. They didn't exist before 1910s, so it's not radon! Remember the stinking refineries, chemical plants, factories of the 40s-60's?>



	Jim

	



	>From: "Jim Muckerheide" <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>

	>To: "maury" <maury@WEBTEXAS.COM>, "Rad health" <healthrad@HOTMAIL.COM>

	>CC: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

	>Subject: RE: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from other

	>cancers

	>Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:21:54 -0500

	>

	>Maury,

	>

	>As already presented and discussed, these are supposedly lung cancers

	>(including metastatic), but there is essentially NO lung cancer before

	>smoking. No such results are possible.  It's just rationalization to

	>defend the rad protection "mission" to extract funds from by producing

	>fear in a gullible public. EPA had to do this when it was pointed out

	>that their rad limits were orders of magnitude more stringent than the

	>release and exposure to natural radon.

	>

	>Suddenly the "Environmental Protection Agency" went from protecting the

	>environment from the ravages of man to protecting man from the ravages

	>of the environment. Never underestimate the creativity and diligence of

	>a bureaucracy with enough money to perpetuate itself. :-)

	>

	>Regards, Jim

	>============

	>

	>-----Original Message-----

	>From:  maury

	>Sent:  Wed 16-Jan-02 6:48 PM

	>To:    Rad health

	>Cc:    radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

	>Subject:       Re: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality

	>from other cancers

	>

	>Then, since you suggest a few examples, surprise us. Provide a few

	>numbers just as examples to support your point - and how do you untangle

	>such cases

	>as the class: brain cancer. When one has lung cancer, that cancer often

	>subsequently appears in the brain as well as elsewhere in the body. Is

	>this

	>still, as physicians typically refer to it, lung cancer? How are these

	>data untangled.? In any event, you have asserted 19,000 cancer deaths

	>from

	>radon; in your view what are the comparable numbers for brain, breast,

	>prostate, and bone?

	>Thanks,

	>Maury Siskel     maury@webtexas.com

	>----------

	>LNT got your goat? Well, take a short break and think how nice it is

	>that wrinkles don't hurt ....

	>===============================================

	>Rad health wrote:

	>

	> > Patricia,

	> >

	> > At the recent ARRST/CRCPD International Radon Meeting

	>http://www.aarst.org/

	> > in Daytona Beach, Dr. Field pointed out that if the BEIR VI

	>predictions are

	> > accurate.  These 19,000 cancer deaths from radon exceed the total

	>number of

	> > cancer deaths for many forms of cancers.  You may be surprised if you

	>check

	> > how many cancer deaths there are from the following cancers: brain,

	>breast,

	> > prostate, bone, etc. each year.

	> >

	> > Don Smith

	> >

	> > >From: "Patricia Milligan" <PXM@nrc.gov>

	> >

	> > Possibly, quite possibly, the radiological and chemical insults to our

	> > bodies over the thousands of years is what directed our course of

	>evolution.

	> >   One would reasonably expect, given LNT and the large number of

	>people in

	>

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