Re: leventhal on nuke security and Yucca - CNN

[Tim <tstead@ntirs.org>]

I hate to burst your bubble, Norm, but the NIRS is not

exactly known for taking a rational approach to

nuclear power.  Moreover, I have searched their

website for some semblance of balance between truth

and emotion and find that there is none.



Please find a more credible source to cite than

Michael Mariotte's group.



Regards,

Tim Steadham, P.E.



P.S. Just so you know, the NIRS's complaints about

Yucca have been addressed many times in many different

forums, but they don't like the answers.  Furthermore,

they seem to place more emphasis on the superstitions

of an ancient people than modern day science (the

"serpent swimming East" statements...)



If you'd like, I can email you a document that I wrote

that discredits that entire page that you reference. 

Just email me and I'll send it to ya.



--- Norman Cohen <ncohen12@HOME.COM> wrote:

> Dear Ruth,

> (1) I wasn't being snide. It may have been a poor

> attempt at humor, but

> wasn;t snide. I was implying though,

> that if I posted "hey guys, the sky is blue", you'd

> find some fault with

> that statement. It is a shame that we are unable to

> have a civil

> conversation.

> 

> (2) As far as Yucca, you can go to www.nirs.org for

> most of the major

> concerns about Yucca and about the traansport off

> waste there. As I have

> stated before, I am of a divided mind on this issue.

> There clearly (to

> me at least) are transport risks, as enumerated by

> Leventhal. With

> around 50,000 shipments, the odds of an accident

> seem real. You are OK with transport, saying that

> everything is safe.

> I'm not so trusting in DOE experiments and tests. 

> As far as the site

> itself, while it looks to me that in the short term

> the storage of waste

> there should be OK, I am not satified with the site

> for long term

> storage - volcanos, earthquakes, water flow, etc.

>    However, the great scientist Arlo Guthrie once

> said in Alice's

> Restuarant, that "rather than have two piles of

> garbage, we threw our on

> the other pile." And so the idea of getting all the

> waste to one place

> is appealing, but not if the waste generators, the

> nukes, are allowed to

> continue to generate waste. Thats why I took a

> position opposed by many

> of my "anti" friends, that I'd support shipping

> waste to Yucca if (1) no

> more nukes were to be built, and (2) that as we

> phase out nukes, the

> waste from the closed nuke could be sent to Yucca.

> 

>   Finally Ruth, I might never send you flowers, but

> I would never send

> you a computer virus either. I got more class than

> that. Sandy Perle is

> correct, you owe me an apology.

> 

> Peace

> Norm

> 

> RuthWeiner@aol.com wrote:

> 

> > In a message dated 2/6/02 10:05:09 AM Mountain

> Standard Time,

> > ncohen12@home.com writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >> Of course you wouldn't. ;-) But NCI, thru

> Leventhal, is trying to

> >> walk down a middle path. After all, he does

> support Yucca with some

> >> reservations, and thats way more to 'your side'

> than most of us

> >> 'anti's.

> >

> > I shouldn't even respond, but don't "you antis"

> have actual reasons

> > for what you support and don't support?  What, for

> example, are the

> > (enumerated) reasons that you (or your group) and

> Leventhal differ on

> > Yucca Mountain? (By the way, this is a real

> question, for which I

> > would like a straightforward answer.  Please

> control your desire to be

> > snide, as in the first few words of the quote

> above.)

> >

> > The nuclear community, for a variety of completely

> rational and

> > understandable reasons, is not entirely of one

> mind regarding Yucca

> > Mountain.

> >

> > Ruth Weiner, Ph. D.

> > ruthweiner@aol.com

> 

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