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Re: Dose Limits to the public



Keep in mind that with the potential release of scrap metal and other

materials into commerce, the ever-growing recognition of NORM in our

lives, and"second-hand" radiation from released medical patients as

examples, the potential amount of sources one person can encounter in a

year goes up significantly, such that a constraint of 1 mrem/y per

source is being debated (which I think is what started this thread). 

That is also part of what the NAS committee is looking at for NRC.  



This may also be a market question.  Imagine Ricardo Montelbon with his

pancake detector selling his "background" Chrysler Cordoba, and then

putting the pancake down on the "elevated" competitor's car.  Which car

would the soccer mom buy? 



Less numerous is the contention that the steel industry is predicting

loss of market share if release of scrap metal goes forward, that would

cost billions, in effect shifting costs from the parties responsible for

the D&D to the steel industry.  News of radioactive scrap metal around

the world hardly even gets attention any more since it has become almost

commonplace.



Basing the public dose limits on science alone is not going to happen. 

It will be based on a variety of inputs (you can choose the scenarios

yourselves).

What we can do is weigh in on what the individual constraint should

be.



Phil Egidi

phil.egidi@state.co.us







>>> "John Morgan" <rpconserv@HOTMAIL.COM> 02/15/02 12:27PM >>>



That may be the case.  So, how do you ensure that an individual member

of 

the public is not exposed from some other non-medical source?  I don't

see 

how this can be effectively done, so it seems that you are left with a

de 

facto limit of 0.25 mSv.



I am sincerely looking for an answer on how to handle this.



>From: Brian_Gaulke@HC-SC.GC.CA 

>Reply-To: Brian_Gaulke@HC-SC.GC.CA 

>To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu 

>Subject: Re:

>Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:14:54 -0500

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>

>

>No, this is not a de facto limit of 0.25 mSv.  You are confusing

limits on

>sources with limits on individual doses.

>

>Brian R. Gaulke, CHP

>brian_gaulke@hc-sc.gc.ca 

>

>

>

>

>

>"John Morgan" <rpconserv@HOTMAIL.COM> on 2002/02/15 12:25:33

>

>Please respond to "John Morgan" <rpconserv@HOTMAIL.COM>

>

>To:   radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu 

>cc:    (bcc: Brian Gaulke/HC-SC/GC/CA)

>

>Subject:

>

>

>

>

>For design of new facilities we are guided by the recommendations in

NCRP

>116 for exposure to members of the public. It states the design

protection

>goal is such that  "no member of the public would exceed the 1 mSv

annual

>effective dose limit from all man-made sources" (not including

medical

>care). However, the confusion comes on p47:

>

>"whenever the potential exists for exposure of an individual member of

the

>public to exceed 25% of the annual effective dose limit as a result

of

>irradiation attributable to a single site, the site operator should

ensure

>that the annual exposure of the maximally exposed individual, from

all

>man-made exposures, does not exceed 1mSv on a continuous basis.

>Alternatively, if such an assessment is not conducted, no single

source or

>set of sources under one control should result in an individual being

>exposed to more than 0.25 mSv annually."

>

>Isn't this a de facto limit of 0.25 mSv?  How often are we going to be

able

>to garrantee that Joe Public isn't touring reactor sites as a

prefered

>vacation activity?  So the real question is for RPPs and facility 

>shielding,

>should the goal be 0.25 mSv or 1 mSv effective dose for an

individual?

>

>

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