For your information, the R&D group I
was worked in that required a mandatory "REVIEW" processes to
ensure quality of the paper. The bosses
often use it to comment on my English and added tutorial sentences to the paper. The bottom line was to delay or hold the
publication until their names appeared on the paper. Talking about Ruth's input, the
"only the firstly couple
of authors count", again, some even suggested me that the rank of authors
should be sorting by last names in alphabetically order. Go figure!
Casper
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Subject: RE: Berkeley lab found
research fabricated
Typo.....I mean
Floyd.....Did I mention my degree is NOT in English?
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Subject: RE: Berkeley lab found
research fabricated
I agree completely, Ruth.
My lengthy comments on the subject were mostly fascicious due to the apparent
uproar over what seems as yet unresolved.
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Subject: Re: Berkeley lab found
research fabricated
My 2 1/2 cents;
1. In the research groups I have worked in, it is common practice to put
everyone's name on group publications, thereby ensuring that everyone gets the
credit that he or she deserves. Only the firsty couple of authors
"count" anyway. One can always have one's name removed.
Since publication matters, though, I have always leaned toward
generosity in including names of co-authors (if they wanted them included).
Also, I think enough of my colleagues that I am not suspicious of their
work.
2. Was this deliberate "fabrication" or a false positive result
enhanced by preliminary hype? I recall the (perhaps somewhat apocryphal)
story of the physician specializing in transplants who painted the fur of some
of his mice with black magic marker in order to show a genetic transplant.
Now that was (or would have been) fabrication. The descriptions I
have read on RADSAFE of the Berkeley claim sound more like premature enthusiasm
about a very questionable result that was later shown to be spurious.
Spurious results happen. Excessive enthusiasm about a spurious result
is embarrassing to the institution, not to speak of the investigator, but it
isn't really fabrication. But perhaps I don't know the whole story.
Ruth
Ruth Weiner, Ph. D.
ruthweiner@aol.com
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