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Re: Victims (Rad Stress)
Jim,
I do remember duck and cover, born in 56. I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up 20 miles from Oak Ridge. Many of my friend's fathers worked here at the plants, and I understand that my father hauled materials to OR during construction (he was an engineer for Southern Railway - drove a train, not the technical kind of engineer).
Anyway, as a kid, my father was also a pilot with the Tennessee Air National Guard's 134th Air Refueling group in Alcoa (he piloted flying gas tanks). His military perpective gave us an insight into the seriousness of the situation at that time even though we were kids. He was furious with himself at one time in the sixties, because we couldn't afford to build a bomb shelter and some of our neighbors could. He thought war with the Russians was inevitable at the time, like many people did.
When John Kennedy was murdered, all of us kids, and many adults, thought we were all going to die because of our proximity to OR. I got over the childhood fear like most folks, but then, we never saw it. It never happened here.
Very good point about being cautious around things we don't understand. We have a great advantage over most folks, because we have some concept of what is dangerous and what is not dangerous from the radiation perspective.
Bud
>>> M Nivas <motnivas@YAHOO.COM> 08/08/02 10:47AM >>>
Hi Jerry et.al.
Jerry 's message mader me think of a few things.
Does anyone remember "DUCK AND COVER"? When I was in
grade school we would have air-raid drills. When the
alarm rang we were to take our coats and chairs and go
into the hallway, we would crouch down facing the
wall, put our coats over are head and back, then place
the chair over us for structural protection. We would
giggle and whisper to each other until the commandant
(teacher) would come by us. Typical threats were: If
you don't be quiet you will not be able to go outside
during lunch, or you'll stay after school, etc...
No stress here for me.
There were probably only two times when I was somewhat
scared (stressed)from radiologic scenarios. The first
was during the Cuban missile crisis. My Grandfather
was reading the New York Daily News and there was a
picture on the front page showing a picture of the
Soviet missile sites. He said "we might blow each
other up." I thought of death (I was born in '55 to
give you a time reference).
The second time was 25 years ago when I was set to
perform my first experiments using various
radionuclides. I was extremely cautious and really
did not understand what I was working with - therefore
the fear -which in retrospect I'm glad I had it was a
blessing). Working knowledge and safety removed that
stress and I have been self assured for over 23 years.
One should be wary when they do not know, and are
starting out. Just my experience - Tom Savin
--- Jerry Cohen <jjcohen@PRODIGY.NET> wrote:
> Jim,
> I'm not so sure! It probably wasn't the intent
> of the NCRP/ICRP and
> others in the radiation safety establishment to
> create widespread
> radiophobia, but if it was, they certainly succeeded
> beyond anything they
> might have hoped for. Were it not for all the
> irrational radiophobia, we
> would likely have a thriving nuclear power industry
> with all the economic
> and environmental advantages it would give, poverty
> would be lower, better
> health care available, and all the other benefits
> that could have been
> afforded to society were it not for all the
> resources that have been
> diverted toward useless radiation control programs.
> The Yucca Mountain
> Project is just one shining example. Relatively
> speaking, the harm caused by
> the Mafia may be "peanuts". Jerry
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Muckerheide <muckerheide@attbi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Victims
>
>
> > Shakespeare had it wrong. Instead of "First thing,
> let's kill all the
> > lawyers." he should have said "First thing, let's
> kill all the liars."
> >
> > Almost all the real crap is caused by somebody
> lying to create a human
> > response to their own benefit. (I realize that on
> this scale of human
> costs,
> > the mafia is way ahead of the NCRP/ICRP cabal! :-)
> >
> > Regards, Jim
>
>
>
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