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Re: TFP update article, E Magazine



on 9/17/02 7:45 AM, William V Lipton at liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM wrote:



> Whether based on faith, science, or the great media conspiracy, we have to

> realize that the fears many people have of nuclear technology are real.

> 

> One more time:  "Perception is reality."

>

> Thus, the



This is the most

> arrogant and patronizing attitudes I've seen, here,



Right up there with

> It's not about dose, it's about trust.



To be gained by lying about dose.



> Curies forever.



Can't disagree with everything! :-)

 

> Bill Lipton

> liptonw@dteenergy.com



Regards, Jim Muckerheide



> Jerry Cohen wrote:

> 

>>     People with a science/technology background  don't seem to get it!

>> Like other religions, anti-nuclear-ism is based on faith. If their

>> "prophets" say there is a 75% increase in cancer rate near nuclear plants,

>> who are we to question it?  In our culture, most of us have learned to at

>> least tolerate  religions other than our own. Why not extend this attitude

>> to Norm and others of his faith? Forget about mathematics, statistics, and

>> scientific logic. Such tools are irrelevant to the true believer.  In their

>> world, facts are whatever you sincerely believe them to be.

>>     Perhaps to many, the idea of  faith-based science might seem

>> oxymoronic. Just keep in mind that Mary Baker Eddy did pretty well with

>> the concept.

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Vincent A King <slavak@gj.net>

>> To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 3:36 PM

>> Subject: Re: TFP update article, E Magazine

>> 

>>> Richard:

>>> 

>>> If you're expecting a substantive answer from Norm on this one, you'll be

>> waiting for a long time.  I've posed similar questions to him, such as:

>>> 

>>> -how are these individuals exposed to harmful doses when there is no

>> measured radiation/radioactive material increase anywhere?

>>> 

>>> -why aren't these harmful effects found to a much greater degree in areas

>> of higher natural background, since higher radiation doses are not just

>> suspected, but are actually measurable - no guesswork involved?

>>> 

>>> Of course, Norm has no way to answer these questions unless he ignores the

>> facts and science behind radiation measurements and health effects.  He

>> would rather push his philosophical opposition to nuclear power, citing some

>> speculative, mysterious, "undiscovered" mechanism for causation (and hoping

>> in the mean time to convince us poor, misled, unenlightened barbarians to

>> reject the ominous conspiracy that has duped us).

>>> 

>>> It seems kind of silly, to me anyway, for him to keep pushing this

>> nonsense in a forum for people whose profession is radiation health and

>> protection and who are experts at the actual mechanisms involved. The

>> "revelations" he continually sends to Radsafe remind me of the suggestion

>> for NASA to send astronauts to explore the sun, but do it at night so they

>> wouldn't burn up.

>>> 

>>> In short, I'm sure Norm is a nice guy, and I have nothing against him

>> personally (except maybe his intellectual dishonesty in not dealing in

>> facts) but don't expect much in the way of a technical response on this

>> question.  His main function on Radsafe is to keep us "informed" of the

>> latest anti-nuclear propaganda.

>>> 

>>> Regards to all,

>>> 

>>> Vincent King

>>> Grand Junction, CO

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

>>> From: "Richard L. Hess" <lists@richardhess.com>

>>> Reply-To: "Richard L. Hess" <lists@richardhess.com>

>>> Date:  Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:33:58 -0700

>>> 

>>>> At 11:20 AM 9/13/2002 -0400, Norman Cohen wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>>> Childhood cancer rates jumped 75 percent in the San Louis Obispo,

>>>>>> Calif., area after a reactor opened there.

>>>> 

>>>> Hi, Norman,

>>>> 

>>>> Could you please explain the relationship between the reactor and the

>>>> childhood cancers?

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

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