Re: "Limit to Survival - Effect of Radiation

[Muckerheide <muckerheide@attbi.com>]

on 10/3/02 11:20 AM, Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS) at jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov

wrote:



> As a counter argument, I could say that since we do not have stresses like

> malnutrition, malaria, smallpox, typhoid, etc., we do like longer.  Of

> course, less radiation through regulations have also increased our life

> span, which has been going up since the end of the 19th century.  Check out

> the facts.



Un-bleeping-believable !!!???   This "non-science" is a joke, right?  :-)



> Yes, there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

> 

> -- John 

> John Jacobus, MS

> Certified Health Physicist

> 3050 Traymore Lane

> Bowie, MD  20715-2024

> 

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net

> [mailto:hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net]

> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:52 AM

> To: Muckerheide

> Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: "Limit to Survival - Effect of Radiation

> 

> 

> Pertinent to radiation safety (topic) is, A, how  prove increased longevity,

> then, B, how implement supplemental radiation in apparently deficient areas

> like the Gulf sates - as proposed by Cameron in Is Radiation an Essential

> Trace Energy? http://www.aps.org/units/fps/oct01/a5oct01.html.

> 

> My experience as a personal physician and amateur social anthropologist

> would

> seem to contradict Peter Parson's premise that, "In modern human

> populations,

> selection for stress resistance is less intense than in earlier times."

> (below)

> 

> Natural selection is by mortality rates. Persistent "stress", via adrenalin

> (fight or flight from anger or fear) 1, shortens clotting time (as in

> coronary

> thrombosis - myocardial infarct or cerebral thrombosis - stroke), 2,

> stimulates arrythmias (400,000 USA deaths yearly, about same as total cancer

> deaths) and 3, may constrict normal coronaries (voodoo effect). "In earlier

> times" there were no lights at night, no watches for time consciousness, no

> radio, TV, ads, driving, etc to give such persisting attentiveness, tension

> and stress as we have now. My most frquenly prescribed medication is an

> adrenalin blocker and decades ago it was tranquilizers.

> 

> These changed causes of death may benefit from radiation hormesis by impoved

> ciculation. That lessened (0.76)  death rate of 28,872 nuclear shipyard

> workers exposed to 0.5 cSv extra (about the better longevity of mountain

> state

> residents) compared with 32,510 coworkers not exposed, suggests a deficiency

> disease. A mechanism is suggested by the better healing of gangrene and

> bursitis with 75 cSv doses of  X-ray in the 1930s, before antibiotics and

> cortisone. Radiation gives blood vessel dilation with better oxygenation and

> nutrition of the tissues. Stress and adrenalin have the opposite effect -

> constriction of skin circulation.

> 

> For longevity, we should prove with placebo controlled, double blind

> studies,

> whether fewer cancers and heart atacks, lower c-reactive protein and better

> longevity does come with supplemental radiation.

> . . .

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