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Re: AW: more st lucie workers expsoed
At 03:29 PM 11/23/2002 +0100, Franz Schoenhofer wrote:
- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
- Von: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]Im
Auftrag von Richard L. Hess
- Gesendet: Montag, 21. Oktober 2002 00:58
- An: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
- Betreff: Re: more st lucie workers expsoed
- At 05:06 PM 10/20/2002 -0400, RuthWeiner@AOL.COM
wrote:
- I
- http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/trib_local_news/article/0,1651,TCP_1107_1482702,00
- .html
- Can someone explain to me why external occupational exposure to 20 to
25 mrem and internal occupational exposure to 1 to 2 mrem are news?
- Yes, Ruth,
- It's easy.
- The lay population is very afraid of nucular (sic) accidents because
there is the image of the huge destruction at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the
image of the atmospheric testing in the 40s and 50s, the image of
Chernobyl ingrained in our minds.
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- Sorry, I cannot confirm that the Chernobyl accident had any impact on
the minds of the US population and even on US scientists. When I spent
six weeks in the USA in 1988 I gave quite a few presentations on the
consequences of the Chernobyl accident in Europe. To me it seemed, that
hardly anybody knew about the accident and that nobody was informed about
the consequences in different parts of Europe. After that I noticed, that
some US institutions had made some modelling on the Chernobyl accident
impact - but they neglected wash-out from rain - which was the most
important factor of contamination in Europe. They did not regard the fact
of precipation and not that in Northern Europe still snow was on the
ground. These model-drawbacks might hopefully have been considered.
in US-models since then.
There may NOT be any major official acknowledgement of Chernobyl in the
U.S., but there is acknowledgement from the populace. Remember, I'm NOT
an HP, but came here looking for information about the rather scary
radiation-centric scenarios I've been reading and hearing
about.
At least some of the folksingers I know have written about it or
mentioned it in songs. I know folk music isn't as popular as it once was,
but there are still people out there doing it. In fact, one friend of
mine, Kristin Lems, wrote a song called simply, "Chernobyl."
She used to have a clip of it on her Web site, but it appears to have
been taken off.
- Regarding Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which I have visited, I can only
hope that this will forever be on the mind of mankind. This was no
accident - how can you dare to call this an accident????.
Franz, I never called it an accident. I said we were afraid of nuclear
accidents because of "the image of the huge destruction at Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, the image of the atmospheric testing in the 40s and 50s,
the image of Chernobyl ingrained in our minds."
I would be one of the last people to say that our bombing of Japan was an
accident. However, I will not engage in discourse about the mindset or
the rightness or wrongness of that fact. I personally feel remorse that
we did this. I also feel remorse as a German-surnamed person for what my
(VERY distant) relations did in the Holocaust in Germany.
However, I did not live through it. My father who did live through it
feels it was the right decision, and he and I have been in many debates
over this.
I have recently licensed the use of some artwork owned by the Hiroshima
Museum of Art for a CD cover. The artist and I are both very pleased with
that little bit of synergy and we now only regret that there isn't an
anti-war song on the CD to tie into the source locale of the cover
art.
- Comparing Chernobyl with Hiroshima and Nagasaki is unacceptable:
Hiroshima and Nagasaki was intended to kill as many people as possible,
Chernobyl was an unexcusable accident, provoked by the NPP staff by
violating clear rules.
As I said, it's the image of the destruction that has infiltrated our
consciousness here...not COMPARING, but ENUMERATING the things that come
to mind and cause fear among our populace.
You must understand that the normal person in the street in the U.S. does
NOT understand the subtleties of what you're describing. We all started
this with chants like "Hell no, we won't glow." and applying
that to a wide range of nuclear and atomic enterprises. The uninformed
public (which I'm TRYING to graduate from) is, indeed, very uninformed on
these matters. Obfuscation (to put it mildly) on the part of the antis is
at least part of the cause.
Cheers,
Richard