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Re: Food Irradiation Alert - etc.



Mark,
 
Yes, I totally agree that it is about choices. Better yet, it should be informed choices.
 
I would pay more for tropical fruit that is harvested when it is almost ripe, irradiated and then shipped. Maybe it would actually taste like tropical fruit, not like the stuff that we get now, which is probably harvested long before it is ripe and then allowed to "ripen" (yeah right!!) during transport.
 
On the subject of informed choices: I think supermarkets should be required to label their meat with the last inspection's ecoli and salmonella count. (The same way as processed food currently shows ingredients.) That way consumers could make informed choices. I would certainly practice ALARA when it comes to salmonella.
 
There is nothing like a little bit of free market forces to get things done. Levels of contamination that we are currently told are "unavoidable" or "no big deal", would soon be history.
 
Best Regards,
Kai
 
http://www.eic.nu
and http://www.gammawatch.com
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Food Irradiation Alert - etc.


Some of us would prefer the option to buy irradiated food. Others can opt out. The pro's are calling for regulations to allow for irradiation - and this typically involves labeling what has been irradiated. Labeling should pay for itself: I would pay more for a sack of potatoes, for example, if I knew that I could keep them at room temperature without sprouting.

If produce is not marked irradiated or not, you can find what is not irradiated by selecting fruit with mold on it (e.g. strawberries). I say this tongue-in-cheek, but it has been seriously suggested by anti-irradiation fanatics. Never mind that fruit can be treated with gas in the US (ethylene oxide?) and not marked as such.

I can sympathize with Franz on one thing: irradiation shouldn't be an excuse for sloppy food handling practices. (At least I think that's part of his thinking.) But, on balance, the benefits of using this extra food processing tool are enormous. It is on a par with heat pasteurization, but with far less loss of nutritional value and taste.

Mark G. Hogue, CHP
mark.hogue@srs.gov
"DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily represent Westinghouse Savannah River Co. or the United States Department of Energy."




"Franz Schoenhofer" <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>
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12/05/02 02:49 PM
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        Subject:        AW: AW: AW: Food Irradiation Alert - Sierra Club of Canada





-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: BERNARD L COHEN [mailto:blc+@pitt.edu]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Dezember 2002 16:39
An: Franz Schoenhofer
Cc: Richard L. Hess; BLHamrick@AOL.COM; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM;
radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Food Irradiation Alert - Sierra Club of Canada




On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Franz Schoenhofer wrote:
>             I clearly oppose  it, when it comes to "extended shelf live".
> This is an argument, which is in sharp contrast with the world wide
opinion
> that food should be as fresh as possible. If Americans accept that foods
> shelf life is extended by radiation - please do it. Nobody in Europe will
> accept it - simply because there is no need for it. We have excellent ways
> to ship oysters, fish, crabs, etc.  to any destination within Europe. The
> price is accordingly. If you do not want to pay the price for fresh
> oysters - leave it and eat a McDonalds hamburger instead - in Europe this
> would be a kind of insunuaion.
>             Food irradiation is ok, if it helps peoples to escape famine.
It
> is a crime, if it is intended to maximise profits of world wide acting
> companies.

                --A large fraction of the food in poor countries like India is
lost duue to spoilage; extending shelf life thus avoids famine and
starvation.
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Sorry, if you had read my postings you would have recognized that I
explicitely have said, that in this case irradiation is justified. I
referred only to the fact - in my opinion - that irradiation is not
necessary in the case of our "Western world".

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                --Americans and Europeans get very little tropical fruit because
of spoilage in transit. Irradiation to extend shelf life would solve this
problem.

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I cannot see a "problem". We have lived for thousands of years without these
tropical fruits. Nowadays we can buy even in my hometown Vienna any tropical
fruits from Papayas to Leechees, from pineapples to coconuts, from carambols
to mangos. We can even buy much cheaper apples, oranges, pears, vegetables,
which would supply us with a lot of vitamin C. Again no reason to irradiate
these fruits!

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                --Fishing boats could remain at sea much longer if they would
avoid spoilage of their catch by irradiation.


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Do you advocate, that irradiation cells with all their shielding would be
installed in fishing boats? How do you think this could be accomplished in
reality? How about radiation protection? Nevertheless this argument is
meaningless. Large fishing vessels freeze fish as soon as it is caught,
clearly avoiding spoilage, small fishing vessels return within a few hours
to their harbour, selling fish instantly.

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A personal remark: I am deeply disappointed, that somebody like you, who is
acknowledged worldwide for his research on Radon falls for the irradiation
lobby and their wrong arguments!

Best regards,

Franz

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