RE: HP salary structure (formerly job posting)

["Bradt, Clayton" <Clayton.Bradt@Labor.State.Ny.Us>]

If unionization is anathema, then its time to start lobbying.  And don't

waste your time talking to the radiation control program people - they have

no influence.  Go straight to the Governors, legislatures, and  congress,

because that is where the licensees are spending their money, and have been

for lo these many years. 



Clayton J. Bradt, CHP

Principal Radiophysicist

NYS Dept. of Labor

Radiological Health Unit

voice: (518) 457-1202

fax:    (518) 485-7406

e-mail: usccjb@labor.state.ny.us





-----Original Message-----

From: William V Lipton [mailto:liptonw@dteenergy.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:52 AM

To: Bradt, Clayton

Cc: Radsafe-Digest (E-mail)

Subject: Re: HP salary structure (formerly job posting)





Only Option 2 - regulation is feasible, and  in the best interest of the

public.  If there are no qualification requirements that restrict the

potential

work force, you could vote for a union, but then the employer could replace

you

rather than negotiate a contract, or may negotiate a contract and then

decide to

outsource the work.  Also, even if a unionization campaign were successful,

the

qualification requirements resulting from collective bargaining may have

little

to do with professional competence.



Most importantly, I doubt that most of us would want to work in a unionized

environment.  This tends to result in factors such as:  (1) Job descriptions

are

very restrictive.  If you do something that falls into someone else's job

description, you'll end up with a grievance.  (2) Promotions tend to be

based

primarily on seniority, and pay raises tend to be across the board.  There

is

little opportunity for an employer to reward individual effort or sanction

individuals who don't pull their weight.



The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

It's not about dose, it's about trust.

Curies forever.



Bill Lipton

liptonw@dteenergy.com



"Bradt, Clayton" wrote:



> There are two ways to improve salaries and increase the perceived value of

> HPs by employers:

>

> 1)  Collective bargaining.  High wage industries tend to be heavily

> unionized. This is not a coincidence. Management will always pay as little

> as they can get away with.  Before teachers organized, salaries were just

> above the poverty level.  Now, in heavily unionized states like NY,

teaching

> salaries -even starting salaries - are pretty good.

>

> 2) Regulation.  If NRC and Agreement states required licensees to have

fully

> trained HPs as RSOs, demand would soar and salaries would follow.

>

> Choose your poison.

>

> Clayton J. Bradt, CHP

> Principal Radiophysicist

> NYS Dept. of Labor

> Radiological Health Unit

> voice: (518) 457-1202

> fax:    (518) 485-7406

> e-mail: usccjb@labor.state.ny.us

>

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